Where will Meta, Apple, and Google be three years from now? It's starting to look like they might all be very different. Nilay, David, and The Verge's Richard Lawler start the show with Eddy Cue's testimony in the Google search trial, in which Cue argued that AI is taking over — and that Google should be allowed to keep paying Apple gobs of money. The hosts also chat about the latest in the Meta trials, and how the recent Apple ruling is already changing the App Store. Then, there are some gadgets to talk about: the panopticon-slash-killer-app coming for Meta's smart glasses, the new Surface Pro and Surface Laptop, and a lot of new iPhones. In the lightning round, we do another round of Brendan Carr is a Dummy, then talk about some new Netflix designs and the latest in our worldwide hunt for party speakers. #Vergecast #Podcast 0:00 Intro 3:21 Eddie Cue's Testimony in Google search trial 6:18 The Future of AI and Search Engines 8:33 Apple's Free Money and Antitrust Issues 16:06 AI's Current State and Future Potential 26:11 The Changing Landscape of Tech Giants 35:10 Mozilla's Struggles and Google's Dominance 35:59 Google's Future Beyond Search 37:39 Apple's AI Challenges 44:03 Meta's Courtroom Drama 47:17 Meta's Strategy and Competition with TikTok 55:04 Meta's Trust and Safety Infrastructure 1:00:28 Meta's Future and TikTok's Impact 1:03:46 Meta's AI Glasses and Privacy Concerns 1:08:44 Privacy Concerns with AI Wearables 1:09:59 Meta's Facial Recognition Glasses 1:11:44 Apple iPhone Rumors 1:13:42 Microsoft's New Surface Devices 1:16:36 The Fascination with Gadget Stress Tests 1:19:46 Brendan Carr is a Dummy 1:28:54 New Netflix designs 1:36:30 Robot Lawnmowers and Party Speakers 1:39:59 Conclusion Subscribe: http://goo.gl/G5RXGs Like The Verge on Facebook: https://goo.gl/2P1aGc Follow on Twitter: https://goo.gl/XTWX61 Follow on Instagram: https://goo.gl/7ZeLvX Follow on TikTok: http://bit.ly/42VeCVU Watch The Vergecast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/40RFRkg The Vergecast Podcast: https://bit.ly/3WQDexZ Decoder with Nilay Patel: http://apple.co/3v29nDc More about our podcasts: https://www.theverge.com/podcasts Read More: http://www.theverge.com Community guidelines: http://bit.ly/2D0hlAv Wallpapers from The Verge: https://bit.ly/2xQXYJr Shop our Verge merch store here: https://bit.ly/4kPCmEc Subscribe to The Verge: https://bit.ly/3FT6n5S Subscribe to The Vergecast on YouTube, new episodes on Tuesday and Friday: https://bit.ly/3I6nJtz If you buy something from a Verge link, Vox Media may receive a commission without exerting any influence on editorial content. For more information about our ethics policy, visit: https://www.theverge.com/ethics-state...