Today on the flagship podcast of spatial computing: The Verge’s David Pierce chats with Victoria Song and Wes Davis about using the Vision Pro for the five months that it's been available to the public. The group details what works, what doesn’t, and what’s next for the device. David chats with the folks at Sandwich Vision, who create Vision Pro apps called Television and Theater, about why they made 3D-rendered versions of CRT TVs in virtual reality. Links: Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it’s not: https://www.theverge.com/24054862/apple-vision-pro-review-vr-ar-headset-features-price Apple announces visionOS 2 with 3D photo transformations and an ultrawide Mac display: https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/10/24171950/apple-vision-pro-wwdc-2024-visionos-2-first-party-native-apps The Vision Pro is a computer for the age of walled gardens: https://www.theverge.com/24055677/apple-vision-pro-epic-netflix-app-ecosystem-monopoly The Vision Pro isn’t destroying your eyes, but maybe get eye drops: https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/28/24083539/apple-vision-pro-eye-strain-health-vr-headsets Apple’s Vision Pro team is reportedly focused on building a cheaper headset: https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/18/24181106/apple-vision-pro-team-cheaper-headset The Vision Pro will get Apple Intelligence and ‘Go Deeper’ in-store demos: https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/30/24189328/vision-pro-apple-intelligence-in-store-demo-cheaper-version Sandwich Vision: https://delicious-feel-037337.framer.app/ 00:00 - Intro in Bora Bora 03:46 - Personal experiences with the Vision Pro 24:04 - Vision OS 2 new features 38:02 - The future of spatial computing 39:29 - A cheaper Vision Pro? 45:18 - Developing Television for Vision Pro: Sandwich 01:07:09 - How can they miniaturize the Vision Pro? (Vergecast Hotline) Subscribe: http://goo.gl/G5RXGs Like The Verge on Facebook: https://goo.gl/2P1aGc Follow on Twitter: https://goo.gl/XTWX61 Follow on Instagram: https://goo.gl/7ZeLvX Follow on TikTok: http://bit.ly/42VeCVU The Vergecast Podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/vergecast Decoder with Nilay Patel: https://link.chtbl.com/decoder More about our podcasts: https://www.theverge.com/podcasts Read More: http://www.theverge.com Community guidelines: http://bit.ly/2D0hlAv Wallpapers from The Verge: https://bit.ly/2xQXYJr If you buy something from a Verge link, Vox Media may receive a commission without exerting any influence on editorial content. For more information about our ethics policy, visit: https://bit.ly/3P4bJgz