📰 Subscribe to UnHerd today at: https://bit.ly/3Qdkd5y UnHerd's Freddie Sayers meets professor Dieter Helm. Watch it on the UnHerd website: https://unherd.com/watch-listen/the-madness-of-our-climate-policy/ Listen to the podcast: https://plnk.to/unherd?to=page UnHerd's Freddie Sayers talks with Professor of Economic Policy at the University of Oxford, Sir Dieter Helm, about the great climate "self-delusion." As global leaders, royals, and celebrities jet into Rio for the 30th UN Climate Summit (COP 30), Helm - one of the world's most respected climate economists - argues the entire Net Zero project, championed by the very elites at the summit, is built on smoke and mirrors, and reveals: why 30 years of COPs have been ineffective; the core deceit politicians have been telling the public for decades; how the West's green policies are actually helping China while leading to our own self-sabotage; and why the UK's "clean energy" dream is a fantasy that is leading to economic ruin. What is the real path forward, and is it too late to fix the mess we've made? Follow UnHerd on social media: Twitter: https://twitter.com/unherd Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/unherd/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unherd/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@unherdtv //TIMECODES// 00:00 - 02:55 - Introduction 02:55 - 07:50 - How the climate movement is changing 07:50 - 12:35 - Is COP doing anything? 12:35 - 25:27 - The problem with the UK’s Net Zero agenda 25:27 - 31:49 - 2050 and the myth of sustainability 31:49 - 44:09 - The real challenge for Western politics 44:09 - 47:16 - A realistic proposal for solving climate change 47:16 - 47:53 - Closing thoughts #UnHerd #COP30 #ClimateChange