Today on the flagship podcast of scaled EV production: Verge producer Will Poor tags along with a former Uber Eats driver who ditched the delivery apps and is trying to start a one-man gig work revolution. The Verge's David Pierce and Andrew Hawkins discuss Rivian's new vehicles they announced last week, and what it will take for the company to compete with Tesla. David and Allison Johnson answer a question from The Vergecast Hotline about foldable phones. Links: This Seattle Delivery Person Is Breaking Free of the Apps: https://seattle.eater.com/2024/2/21/24079162/tony-delivers-seattle-delivery-app-fees-downtown Rivian R2, R3, and R3X launch event: the EV company’s more affordable SUVs are here: https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/5/24091079/rivian-r2-ev-launch-suv-price-live Rivian’s CEO talks R2 and R3 launch, and why he has ‘complete certainty’ EVs will win: https://www.theverge.com/24094259/rivian-r2-r3-r3x-ceo-interview-price-production-future Google Pixel Fold review: closing the gap: https://www.theverge.com/23773594/google-pixel-fold-review-screen-battery-hinge-camera Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 5 review: a little better is just good enough: https://www.theverge.com/23826325/samsung-galaxy-z-fold-5-review-screen-hinge-battery-camera 00:00 - Intro 02:06 - Tony vs the delivery apps 16:19 - State of Rivian w/Andy Hawkins 30:41 - Rivian vs Tesla 40:40 - Rivian’s financial challenges 46:07 - The future of EVs 49:29 - Vergecast Hotline w/Allison Johnson Subscribe: http://goo.gl/G5RXGs Like The Verge on Facebook: https://goo.gl/2P1aGc Follow on Twitter: https://goo.gl/XTWX61 Follow on Instagram: https://goo.gl/7ZeLvX Follow on TikTok: http://bit.ly/42VeCVU The Vergecast Podcast: https://pod.link/430333725 Decoder with Nilay Patel: http://apple.co/3v29nDc More about our podcasts: https://www.theverge.com/podcasts Read More: http://www.theverge.com Community guidelines: http://bit.ly/2D0hlAv Wallpapers from The Verge: https://bit.ly/2xQXYJr Subscribe to The Vergecast on YouTube, new episodes on Wednesday and Friday: https://bit.ly/3I6nJtz