Today on the flagship podcast of configuration changes: The Verge's Tom Warren joins the show to to talk about the story and legacy of the CrowdStrike crash. Then we talk with The Verge's Victoria Song and Zombies, Run creator Adrian Hon about making exercising fun without making it competitive and awful. Finally, we answer a hotline question about handheld gadgets for new parents — because there's a lot of time to kill when there's a baby around. Further reading: CrowdStrike and Microsoft: all the latest news on the global IT outage: https://www.theverge.com/24201803/crowdstrike-microsoft-it-global-outage-airlines-banking Major Windows BSOD issue hits banks, airlines, and TV broadcasters: https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/19/24201717/windows-bsod-crowdstrike-outage-issue What is CrowdStrike, and what happened?: https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/19/24201864/crowdstrike-outage-explained-microsoft-windows-bsod CrowdStrike’s faulty update crashed 8.5 million Windows devices, says Microsoft: https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/20/24202527/crowdstrike-microsoft-windows-bsod-outage CrowdStrike outage: Photos, videos, and tales of IT workers fixing BSODs: https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/21/24202960/crowdstrike-windows-outage-it-workers-photos-videos Zombies, Run: https://zrx.app/zombies Adrian Hon’s Substack: https://adrianhon.substack.com/ Finally, the Apple Watch will let you rest: https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/13/24175506/apple-watch-watchos-11-rest-days-wearables This walking app let me whack my co-workers with a baseball bat: https://www.theverge.com/24167330/stompers-ios-walking-app-soren-iverson Ignore your fitness tracker and walk to Mordor instead: https://www.theverge.com/24065451/fantasy-hike-app-fitness-tracker-walking-health Backbone One review: the best mobile gaming controller yet: https://www.theverge.com/21525741/backbone-one-iphone-ios-controller-gaming-portable-review Handheld consoles are the future of gaming: https://www.theverge.com/23948529/nintendo-switch-steam-deck-handheld-consoles-gaming Holedown: https://holedown.com/ Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and pre-vacation preparations 02:58 President Biden Drops Out 03:31 Global computer outage explained 04:30 Interview with Tom Warren on the outage 06:34 CrowdStrike's role in the outage 14:59 Fixing the outage 26:45 The fragility of modern infrastructure 32:37 Fitness and the super chill exercise system 35:11 The concept of Zombies Run 35:52 Interview with Adrian Hon 50:09 Personal experiences with fitness apps 01:08:05 The Vergecast Hotline Subscribe: http://goo.gl/G5RXGs Like The Verge on Facebook: https://goo.gl/2P1aGc Follow on Twitter: https://goo.gl/XTWX61 Follow on Instagram: https://goo.gl/7ZeLvX Follow on TikTok: http://bit.ly/42VeCVU The Vergecast Podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/vergecast Decoder with Nilay Patel: https://link.chtbl.com/decoder More about our podcasts: https://www.theverge.com/podcasts Read More: http://www.theverge.com Community guidelines: http://bit.ly/2D0hlAv Wallpapers from The Verge: https://bit.ly/2xQXYJr If you buy something from a Verge link, Vox Media may receive a commission without exerting any influence on editorial content. For more information about our ethics policy, visit: https://bit.ly/3P4bJgz