Rich sits down with Emmy-award-winning, NYT bestselling writer Suleika Jaouad to talk about navigating cancer, living a creative life, and her Netflix documentary, American Symphony. To read more about Suleika and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾https://bit.ly/richroll807 ✌🏼🌱 - Rich RICH ROLL X ON https://www.on-running.com/en-us/stories/rich-roll MEAL PLANNER http://meals.richroll.com LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/rrpitunes Spotify: http://bit.ly/rrpspotify Google: http://bit.ly/rrpgooglepods Meal Planner: http://meals.richroll.com Voicing Change Book: http://richroll.com/vc Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/RichRollPodcastClips Newsletter: http://bit.ly/rollcallemail CONNECT WITH RICH ✩ Website - http://richroll.com​ ✩ Rich Roll Podcast - https://richroll.com/all-episodes/ ✩ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/richroll/ ✩ Twitter - https://twitter.com/richroll ✩ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/richrollfans ✩ Strava - https://www.strava.com/athletes/14443?oq=rich ✩ Memoir: Finding Ultra - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/finding-ultra/ ✩ Meals - http://meals.richroll.com​ ✩ Cook - The Plantpower Way - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/the-plantpower-way-signed/ ✩ Italian! - The Plantpower Way: Italia - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/the-plantpower-way-italia-signed/ ✩ Support - https://www.patreon.com/richroll FILMED AND EDITED BY BLAKE CURTIS, DAN DRAKE & MORGAN MCRAE https://www.blakecurtis.net/ https://www.dandrake333.com/ FOOTAGE PROVIDED BY NETFLIX 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:05 Navigating life during treatment 00:05:55 The shock of a leukemia diagnosis at 22 00:08:32 Struggling with identity and ambition during illness 00:12:35 Finding purpose through creativity and writing 00:18:30 Challenging traditional narratives of illness 00:22:48 Embracing the in-between spaces of life 00:24:02 Struggling with moving on after treatment 00:25:13 Finding Rituals 00:26:12 Sponsor Break 00:27:18 PTSD Diagnosis 00:28:23 Lack of Support 00:28:52 Creating Support 00:29:34 Blogging Journey 00:32:04 Challenges of Writing 00:34:18 Visiting Strangers 00:38:40 Struggle with Vulnerability 00:41:17 Impact of Book and TED Talk 00:46:03 Facing Relapse 00:48:37 Fear of Relapse 00:49:41 Misdiagnosis 00:50:56 The biopsy 00:52:41 Diagnosis and relief 00:54:38 American Symphony 00:56:17 Making the film 00:59:36 Vulnerability and creativity 01:01:10 Ad Break 01:02:41 John's commitment 01:13:25 Suleika's creative process 01:18:25 Finding peace 01:18:39 The allowing and surrender 01:19:18 The inevitability of creativity 01:20:31 The surprise and manifestation in writing 01:22:32 The power of manifestation 01:24:50 Embracing limitations and finding meaning 01:27:54 Navigating uncertainty and living in the present 01:34:44 Living in the in-between 01:37:09 Transforming darkness into light 01:41:26 Facing fear and embracing creativity 01:42:24 Embracing ambiguity and improvisation 01:43:19 Reimagining survival as a creative act 01:46:36 Surrendering to the Power Outage 01:47:47 Navigating Change 01:48:27 Finding Agency in Response 01:49:25 Embracing the Journey of Response 01:51:38 Expressing Gratitude and Love 01:52:04 Podcast Closing and Support * * * * * NEW TO RICH? Hi I'm Rich Roll. I'm a vegan ultra-endurance athlete, author, podcaster, public speaker & wellness evangelist. But mainly I'm a dad of four. If you want to know more, visit my website or check out these two the NY Times articles: http://bit.ly/otillonyt http://bit.ly/vegansglam I LOVE MAIL! SEND IT HERE: 2630 Conejo Spectrum St. Thousand Oaks, CA 91320 #richroll #richrollpodcast