Dr. Shane Simonsen is a an experimental farmer and speculative biologist who breeds crops that can thrive under zero-input conditions in a post-industrial future. We talk about his vision for the lumbering collapse of the petroleum-fueled present, the rise of the biopunks, and the limitations of our imagination when it comes to military tech, psychological weapons, and the dark art of crowd control. 00:00:00 Go! 00:01:38 Collapse in Complexity 00:04:35 Biotech Civilization 00:11:04 Is Ecology Suspect? 00:19:02 Regulatory Wars 00:36:10 Lysenkoism, hybridization, and making mutants 00:51:33 Use cases for weird hybrids 01:00:50 If farming is so good, why doesn't everyone farm? 01:16:46 Eugenics 01:31:03 Is depopulation so bad? 01:42:40 Moral Codes vs Global Governance 02:01:26 Compatibility of enlightenment and doomerism 02:11:13 the re-emergence of violence 02:22:09 The group of people who wants to live forever 02:33:43 Predictions for the future 02:46:23 Evil Overlord Thought Experiment 02:51:55 Closing thoughts Support the scientific revolution by joining our Patreon: https://bit.ly/3lcAasB Check out Shane's novellas about the biological technology driven future: https://amzn.to/3NxLK0w Tell us what you think in the comments or on our Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub #collapse #zeroinputagriculture #biopunk Check our short-films channel, @DemystifySci: https://www.youtube.com/c/DemystifyingScience AND our material science investigations of atomics, @MaterialAtomics https://www.youtube.com/@MaterialAtomics Join our mailing list https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. - Blog: http://DemystifySci.com/blog - RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss - Donate: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD - Swag: https://bit.ly/2PXdC2y SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671