Ramit Sethi of I Will Teach You To Be Rich talks to Cre and April, a couple of five years, aged 46 and 48. Cre lives a debt-averse life and has been methodically building her wealth. April, on the other hand, earns more than twice Cre's income but struggles with significant debt and zero savings. They are at a crossroads, contemplating moving in together, but their conflicting approaches to money present a major hurdle. Cre fears that April’s spending habits will lead to constant arguments and financial strain, especially with the prospect of marriage and inheriting April's substantial debt. April, however, doesn't see her spending as a problem, insisting she lives a good life and can always work more to cover expenses. Ramit helps them uncover the generational patterns influencing their financial behaviors and challenges them to reconsider their current dynamic. In this episode we uncover: • How Cre and April act as "granny and child" during money conversations • Why April feels micromanaged and hides purchases • The emotional pressure April uses to get what she wants • The significant disparity in their net worth despite April's higher income • Why April initially doesn't see a problem with her spending habits • The uncomfortable truth about April treating money like she's still poor • How April's family history of money management influences her • The shocking revelation about generational money patterns • Why April's daughter is following a similar financial dynamic • Ramit's direct challenge to April's “innocent doe” persona • Cre's struggle to set clear financial boundaries • How April reacts to Cre's direct financial expectations • Ramit's step-by-step plan for April to tackle debt and build savings ⏩ CHAPTERS (00:00:00) Introduction (00:04:14) April's persistent questions about Cree's spending (00:07:49) The "granny and child" roles in their money talks (00:12:47) Why April fears marrying into debt (00:13:46) The core of their financial disagreement (00:23:05) A stark comparison of their financial numbers (00:26:08) April's disconnect from her serious financial situation (00:36:00) Cree’s secret side income and resourcefulness (00:40:00) April’s luxury basement renovation with zero savings (00:44:40) Unpacking April's extensive debt and spending habits (00:48:28) Generational money patterns in April's family (01:05:32) Cree's struggle to set clear financial boundaries (01:10:09) The pitfalls of "walking on eggshells" in a relationship 💡 RAMIT’S PODCAST NEWSLETTER • I share new ways to think about money every Saturday. Get the emails here: https://iwt.com/podcastnewsletter 🙌 GET HELP FROM RAMIT SETHI • Order my new book: Money for Couples: https://iwt.com/moneyforcouples • Take control of your money with the Conscious Spending Plan: https://iwt.com/csp • Optimize your credit cards with the 1st chapter of my book: https://iwt.com/chapter1-pod • Join my Money Coaching program for monthly help: https://iwt.com/moneycoaching • Listen to my book — now on Audible: https://amzn.to/48zko28 🤳 CONNECT WITH RAMIT SETHI • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ramit/ • X: https://twitter.com/ramit ✅ SUBSCRIBE SO YOU DON’T MISS ANY EPISODES https://youtube.com/user/ramitsethi/featured/ THIS EPISODE IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY LMNT | Get a free 8-count Sample Pack with any LMNT order at https://drinklmnt.com/RAMIT Factor | Go to https://factormeals.com/ramit50OFF and use code RAMIT50OFF to get 50% off your first box, plus free breakfast for 1 year ZocDoc | Go to https://zocdoc.com/ramit to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today #sponsored Leesa | Go to https://leesa.com for 30% off mattresses PLUS get an extra $50 off with promo code RAMIT, exclusive for my listeners DeleteMe | Get 20% off all consumer plans when you go to https://joindeleteme.com/ramit and use promo code RAMIT at checkout Are you looking to retire in the next 5 years, but are wondering if you have enough saved? Apply to be coached for free on this podcast at iwt.com/apply.