Ready to begin or deepen your meditation practice? Join Dan Harris and world-class meditation teachers on the 10% with Dan Harris app here: https://app.danharris.com/membership The whole "live to 120" longevity industrial complex has gotten out of control — expensive protocols, supplements, biohacking, and a level of self-obsession that misses the actual point of being alive. Dr. Zeke Emanuel got so annoyed reading Peter Attia's Outlive that he sat down and wrote a 35,000-word counter-blast in a weekend. Dr. Ezekiel "Zeke" Emanuel is an oncologist, bioethicist, healthcare policy expert, and (according to him) the least successful of the three Emanuel brothers. His new book is Eat Your Ice Cream: Six Simple Rules for a Long and Healthy Life, and it's a refreshingly un-precious take on how to actually live well — not just a long time. In this episode: – Why Zeke wrote this book specifically to counter-program Peter Attia (and the rest of the wellness influencer crowd) – The one question that left Bryan Johnson sitting in painful 30-second silence – Why social interaction is the single biggest longevity hack — and what it does to your biology – The Emanuel brothers' family group chat (15 people, multiple texts a day) – Why having your phone face-down on the table still ruins dinner – Yes, you can eat your ice cream (the data is actually surprisingly good) – Where Zeke lands on alcohol, GLP-1s, sunscreen, guns, and Mount Everest – Why he can't meditate (and what Dan said back to him about that) – The wild story of how Dan got his restless leg syndrome diagnosis — from ChatGPT – Zeke's take on AI in medicine — where he's bullish and where he's cautious Subscribe to watch more 10% Happier videos: https://www.youtube.com/tenpercenthappier Follow Dan Harris on Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/danharris/ https://www.tiktok.com/@danbharris https://www.facebook.com/DanHarrisABC https://twitter.com/danbharris https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-harris-91ba5716b/ 0:00:00 Zeke's beef with Peter Attia and the wellness industrial complex 0:08:00 Longevity is NOT the goal — quality over quantity 0:10:00 Bryan Johnson sat in silence when asked "what's the point?" 0:15:00 Rule #1: Don't be a schmuck (Mount Everest, guns, sunscreen) 0:27:00 Rule #2: Don't be a misanthrope — the biggest longevity move 0:30:00 The Emanuel brothers' family chat of 15 0:34:00 "It's hard to make old friends" — and the phone-on-the-table problem 0:41:00 Rule #3: Don't be a dimwit (and why Zeke makes his own chocolate) 0:43:00 Zeke "can't meditate" — Dan does the reframe 0:49:00 Rule #4: Don't be a glutton — and why ice cream is actually fine 0:59:00 Where Zeke comes down on alcohol and GLP-1s 1:04:00 Rule #5: Don't be a couch potato (golf carts don't count) 1:07:00 Rule #6: Don't be a sheep counter 1:11:00 Dan's RLS diagnosis — by ChatGPT 1:13:00 AI in medicine — where Zeke is bullish #10PercentHappier #ZekeEmanuel #EatYourIceCream This episode is brought to you by BiOptimizers. Magnesium Breakthrough features seven different forms of magnesium to support normal nerve function, stress response, sleep quality, and recovery — and it's clean: no synthetic additives, no preservatives, gluten-free and soy-free. Every order comes with a 365-day money-back guarantee. As always, talk to your doctor before adding any new supplement. Go to https://www.bioptimizers.com/happier and use code HAPPIER for 15% off your order. This episode is brought to you by Eight Sleep. Eight Sleep's Pod is a smart mattress cover that heats and cools each side of your bed automatically, anywhere from 55 to 110 degrees, and tracks your heart rate, HRV, respiratory rate, and sleep stages — no ring or watch required. Use the code DanHarris at https://www.eightsleep.com/danharris for up to $350 off the Pod 5.