Steven Rinella talks with New Mexico Senator Martin Heinrich, Ryan Callaghan, and Randall Williams.  Topics discussed: Corner crossing and the Supreme Court ruling; stream access; the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, mining, and caribou; the Roadless Rule; where to develop and not develop renewables; relative bipartisan support for nuclear energy; reintroducing pronghorn back to an area of New Mexico; the breadth of the coalition that came together around keeping public lands in public hands; and more.  Connect with Steve and The MeatEater Podcast Network Steve on Instagram and Twitter MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube Connect with Steve and The MeatEater Podcast Network: https://www.youtube.com/@MeatEaterPodcastNetwork Steve on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stevenrinella/?hl=en Check out the gear the MeatEater Crew uses in the field here: https://store.themeateater.com Follow us: Web: https://www.themeateater.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/meateater Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/StevenRinellaMeatEater Chapters: 0:00 - Introduction: Senator Martin Heinrich 5:33 - Corner Crossing Supreme Court Decision Explained 14:43 - Ambler Mining Road and Alaska Caribou Crisis 28:15 - Roadless Rule Political Ping-Pong 44:28 - Energy Dominance vs Public Lands 1:01:18 - Via Caldera: National Park with State Hunting Management 1:18:47 - 54,000 Acre Elba Ranch Acquisition Story 1:28:18 - Political Career and Conservation Focus 1:38:59 - Public Land Sell-Off: The Coalition That Won 1:41:53 - Mule Deer Crisis: Why This Senator is Worried