MSNBC’s Chris Hayes, host of All In and Why Is This Happening?, joins Jon Lovett to talk about why Trump’s rhetoric on immigration and crime is so dangerous, why being optimistic about America has fallen so far out of the mainstream, and the disconnect between what’s actually happening in politics and how people feel about it. Check out Chris Hayes's Podcast, "Why is This Happening?," Now: http://go.crooked.com/NDT7PH CHAPTERS 0:00 - Intro 0:15 - Trump on immigration & The Border 2:47 - Biden Vs. Trump on crime and violence 9:22 - Optimism Vs. Pessimism in politics 25:10 - Immigration politics 28:44 - Trans Rights politics 36:37 - Politician Ideologies 39:39 - The Devil's bargain with Trump Want Pod Save America ad-free? Subscribe to Friends of the Pod: crooked.com/friends Our book Democracy or Else is out June 25th! Pre-order at https://bit.ly/491j0oc. Profits support Vote Save America and 2024 campaigns. See Pod Save America Live on the Democracy or Else Tour! Get tickets at https://bit.ly/43lz6YO Subscribe to our channel! https://www.youtube.com/crookedmedia?sub_confirmation=1 Crooked believes that we need a better conversation about politics, culture, and the world around us—one that doesn’t just focus on what’s broken, but what we can do to fix it. At a time when it’s increasingly easy to feel cynical or hopeless, former Obama staffers Jon Favreau, Jon Lovett, and Tommy Vietor have created a place where people can have sane conversations that inform, entertain, and inspire action. In 2017 they started Crooked with Pod Save America—a no-bullshit conversation about politics. Since then, we continue to add shows, voices, and opportunities for activism, because it’s up to all of us to do our part to build a better world. That’s it. End of mission. Learn more about Crooked at http://www.crooked.com Follow the pod on Twitter https://twitter.com/podsaveamerica Follow Crooked on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/CrookedMedia/ Follow Crooked on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/crookedmedia/ #podsaveamerica #trump #chrishayes