Today on the flagship podcast of anti-steering provisions: The Verge's David Pierce and Makena Kelly discuss Epic v. Google, a trial about the future of app stores. Liz Lopatto joins the show to detail her experience covering the Sam Bankman-Fried trial from start to finish. Richard Lawler helps answer this week's Vergecast Hotline question. Links: Epic v. Google: a battle over Fortnite fees goes to court: https://www.theverge.com/23945184/epic-v-google-fortnite-play-store-antitrust-trial-updates FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried is guilty of fraud: https://www.theverge.com/23894366/ftx-sam-bankman-fried-trial-updates-news Disney’s new vision for ESPN might include part ownership by the NBA, NFL: https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/21/23803284/disney-espn-nba-nfl-streaming-sports-cable-tv Disney finally revealed how many billions ESPN pulls in: https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/20/23925781/disney-finally-revealed-how-much-billions-espn-is-pulling-in 00:00 - Intro 02:14 - Epic v. Google with Makena 27:05 - SBF trial with Liz 55:47 - Vergecast Hotline with Richard The Vergecast Podcast: https://pod.link/430333725 Decoder with Nilay Patel: http://apple.co/3v29nDc Read More: http://www.theverge.com Community guidelines: http://bit.ly/2D0hlAv