5 consecutive UK Prime Ministers have declared that the UK will become an AI Superpower, why is Keir Starmer any different? Why does no one have ‘big ideas’ anymore? And, how did Peter Kyle’s experience of grief shape the politician he is today? Rory and Alastair are joined by Peter Kyle, the Secretary of State for Science, Innovation and Technology, to discuss all this and more. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestispolitics. Video Editor: Alice Horrell Assistant Producer: Alice Horrell Social Producer: Harry Balden Producer: Nicole Maslen Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport 0:00 – The UK's relevance 0:45 – Introduction of Peter Kyle, Secretary of State for Tech, Science, and Innovation 2:02 – Childhood, family background, and social mobility journey 5:42 – Relationship with his parents 7:59 – Coming out as gay and his family’s reaction 13:36 – His late partnerand dealing with grief 19:30 – Seeking therapy and resilience-building after personal losses 21:09 – Transitioning into public life and political responsibilities 24:00 – Brexit discussion – navigating government policies post-Brexit 30:44 – Labour's long-term policy vision 34:03 – AI 41:00 – The influence of Elon 46:07 – European security concerns under the Trump administration 50:01 – The power of big tech companies 55:00 – The importance of AI for national competitiveness. 1:00:26 – Debrief