This episode documents attempts made by Doug (Nemo) o get to the bottom of whether Mormon doctrines & practices meant to instill accountability from its earliest days and scripture are still applicable today, or whether they've become mere ritual, devoid of any meaningful significance other than virtue-signaling conformity and a continued commitment to blind obedience. As a squeaky wheel unable to be assuaged or silenced by local leadership, Nemo surprises everyone (including himself) when he manages to bypass the usual gatekeepers and break through the glass ceiling separating Mormonism's apostles and prophets from the rank-and-file, successfully garnering the attention of none other than second highest-ranking apostle and next in line to become prophet, Dallin H. Oaks. How did it go? Tune it to find out! Nemo’s document: "Evidence of Dishonesty" https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JdHLi4JH1SC5dMsaVX60mwvLECox5Qe9/view Mormonism LIVE episode: https://youtu.be/oBFkuqtwujc Chapters: 00:00:00 Intro & quick background on Nemo’s story 00:06:00 What were the major issues that started Nemo on holding leaders accountable? 00:11:50 Explanation of Mormon practice of sustaining votes 00:21:20 Clip: Apostle Dallin Oaks says for opposing votes to go to Stake Presidents 00:22:35 Nemo votes opposed and meets with his Stake President (email included) 00:28:55 2nd Class Mormons 00:32:35 Nemo meets w/authority Alan Phillips & requests further info on leader dishonesty 00:42:00 Recap of various lies 00:50:00 The motive of intent 00:54:00 Nemo’s video opposing at Stake Conference 00:59:00 Nemo emails the entire First Presidency 01:02:06 “What is to be done?” 01:04:00 Dallin’s response, Nemo pushes back 01:15:00 Brook P Hales, secretary to First Presidency, tries to shut Nemo down 01:18:45 Nemo pushes back. His concerns are legitimate, not theoretical 01:20:15 Sustaining Flow Chart 01:25:10 “Evidence of Dishonesty” document 01:45:00 Stake President changes Nemo’s email 01:51:15 Dallin Oaks promises to investigate Nemo’s claims 01:53:30 Oaks finally responds 01:56:30 Stake President agrees to meet with Nemo to go over counsel from Oaks 02:01:45 Where’s the letter from Oaks? 02:05:00 Clip: “You can trust [us] completely” 02:07:20 Clip: “Prophets aren’t always popular, but they will always teach the truth” 02:08:15 Nemo’s final email and mic drop 02:19:00 John plays Devil’s Advocate Episode Show Notes: https://www.mormonstories.org/podcast/dallin-oaks-responds-to-nemo/ @MormonStories: Dallin Oaks’ Electroshock therapy at BYU: https://youtu.be/CsSlnNx7mgY Douglas Stilgoe: https://youtu.be/rg576PLEsjs Tom Phillips: https://youtu.be/703yOcfvD3s @NemotheMormon Elder Holland & the BBC: https://youtu.be/U35e6sXsdRM Lies of Church Leaders Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2iZEtQU3lgc3I3vprWrU85pHoItcjCVi Loyal Opposition Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2iZEtQU3lgdibUghiA2iuDYKHUqF5qzm @MormonDiscussions Nelson’s ‘Flight of Death’: https://youtu.be/fz4iQk1M9l4 Jeffrey Holland: Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire: https://youtu.be/QyFsy2zQf04 ABOUT US: Mormon Stories Podcast is the longest-running and most successful podcast in Mormonism - hosted by Dr. John Dehlin. At Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We also occasionally interview scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1) Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology, 2) Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis, and 3) Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions. Mormon Stories Podcast is a product of the Open Stories Foundation - a 501c3 non-profit dedicated to supporting Mormons in religious transition. Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donations: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories?default_interval=m Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Amazon Smile: Be sure to select “Mormon Stories” website: https://smile.amazon.com app: https://amz.run/5r2M Our Platforms: Mormon Stories Blog: https://www.mormonstories.org/episodes Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sDzk7dRjODTSEqzZKZJzk?si=148b0efc1ccc4404&nd=1 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormon-stories-lds/id312094772 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mormstories TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormonstoriespodcast Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjF Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 #MormonStories #Mormon #lds