How did Jeremy Hunt lose the Conservative leadership race to Boris Johnson? What does the longest serving Health Minister think will fix the NHS? What does Jeremy Hunt really think of Kemi Badenoch’s leadership? Alastair and Rory are joined by former Chancellor Jeremy Hunt to answer all this and more. 00:00 What made Jeremy Hunt? 20:26 Labour and the welfare reform challenge 30:02 UK tax choices and economic growth reform 47:07 Truss becomes PM, Hunt appointed Chancellor 57:04 The Thatcher legacy and Conservative identity 1:03:05 Strong communication vs strong governance 1:10:03 Tory brand damage post-Truss and Johnson 1:14:04 Elon Musk, libertarianism and the civil service 1:20:01 Democracy vs autocracy in global politics 1:23:01 Why Hunt remained in Parliament and ran again 1:24:56 Debrief