Dr. Steven Koonin is a theoretical physicist, former Chief Scientist at BP, former Under Secretary for Science at the Department of Energy in the Obama administration, and is currently a professor of Civil and Urban Engineering at NYU. He is also the author of Unsettled, a book about the abilities and limits of climate science. We talk with him about the great distance between the scientific reports and public conception, the social unrest that's seeded by unwarranted fear of impending catastrophe, and the delicate art of speaking out against motivated consensus. Tell us your thoughts in the comments!!! Sign up for our Patreon and get episodes early + join our weekly Patron Chat https://bit.ly/3lcAasB Support the podcast by buying Unsettled: What Climate Science Tells Us, What it Doesn't, and Why it Matters 00:00 Go! 00:08:34 Koonin's entry into the climate sciences 00:16:14 Not trying to save the world, just doing science 00:26:53 Cleaning the air & global warming 00:36:30 What affects sensitivity of the models 00:53:10 Better simulations later? 01:08:02 Economics v. taking care of the Earth 01:28:45 Values discussion v. facts? 01:31:53 Working skeptically for the Obama admin 01:42:43 Energy externalities 01:46:23 Nuclear alternatives 02:01:25 Fusion possibilities? 02:09:02 Nuclear as transition - shaping our future 02:15:36 Cost of progressive policy #ClimatePhysics #ClimateScienceFacts #RealClimateScience #ClimatePhysicsDebate #ClimateRealityCheck #ClimateDissent #ScientificIntegrity #ClimateHysteriaDebate #ClimateScienceTruth #PhysicsOfClimate #ScienceAndSkepticism #ClimateFactsMatter #ScienceOverHype #ClimateDebateReality #PhysicsOfGlobalWarming Check our short-films channel, @DemystifySci: https://www.youtube.com/c/DemystifyingScience AND our material science investigations of atomics, @MaterialAtomics https://www.youtube.com/@MaterialAtomics Join our mailing list https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. - Blog: http://DemystifySci.com/blog - RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss - Donate: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD - Swag: https://bit.ly/2PXdC2y SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671