
Karl Deisseroth, MD, PhD, is a clinical psychiatrist and scientist who directs a bioengineering research laboratory at Stanford University School of Medicine. His work aims to understand and develop treatments for disorders of the mind such as depression, attention deficit disorders (ADHD and ADD), autism, schizophrenia, anxiety, eating disorders, borderline personality disorder and obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD). We discuss his experience treating patients and his laboratory’s mission to find and develop cures for mental diseases and tools for probing how the brain works. For an up-to-date list of our current sponsors, please visit our website: https://www.hubermanlab.com/sponsors. Previous sponsors mentioned in this podcast episode may no longer be affiliated with us. Dr. Karl Deisseroth Twitter: https://twitter.com/KarlDeisseroth New book: https://amzn.to/3diiKHG Lab Website: https://web.stanford.edu/group/dlab/ Social & Website Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hubermanlab Twitter: https://twitter.com/hubermanlab Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hubermanlab LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-huberman Website: https://hubermanlab.com Newsletter: https://hubermanlab.com/neural-network Timestamps: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:07:41 Using Language to Understand the Mind 00:12:19 Blood Tests For Mental Disease 00:13:38 The Largest Challenges Facing Treatment of Mental Health 00:20:21 Predicting Depression & Suicide 00:22:47 Drugs That Work for Brain Illness 00:27:01 What Would A Cure For the Broken Mind Look Like? 00:32:23 Channelopsins: Tools For Understanding & Treating the Mind 00:39:10 Curing Blindness with Channelopsins 00:41:58 Why Karl Became a Scientist 00:47:10 Vagus Nerve In Depression 00:54:12 Challenges To Overcome for Treating Mental Illness with Channelopsins 00:58:34 Using the Dialogue with Patients to Guide Treatment 01:00:52 How Our Eyes Reveal Our Mental Health 01:06:04 Controlling Structures Deep In the Brain 01:08:23 The Most Effective Drugs Often Have the Most Side Effects 01:09:50 Do Psychiatrists Take the Drugs They Prescribe? 01:14:15 Moving From Experimental Tools To Novel Treaments 01:16:00 Brain-Machine Interfaces & Neuralink 01:19:30 ADHD & Dr. Deissroth’s Approach To Focusing His Mind 01:26:36 How Dr. Deisseroth Balances A Career In Medicine, Science & Family 01:35:41 New Ways of Exploring Brains: CLARITY 01:38:49 What Is Special About the Human Brain? 01:46:03 Psychedelics 01:54:12 MDMA 01:57:15 Dr. Deisseroth’s New Book “Projections: A Story of Emotions” 01:59:42 Connecting with Dr. Deisseroth on Twitter The Huberman Lab Podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user’s own risk. The content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions.

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