Mormon therapist Jodi Hildebrandt is in jail along with "8 Passengers" mother Ruby Franke under allegations of child abuse. Jodi Hildebrandt is the founder of ConneXions Classroom - a program created to help Mormon couples, parents, and families "transform your mental health and relationships." Jessi Hildebrandt (they/them) is Jodi Hildebrandt's niece and outlines a deeply disturbing history with their aunt Jodi Hildebrandt. Please join us for Jessi's story. For those who want to support Jessi: Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/JessiTattooer Insta: https://www.instagram.com/jessitattooer/ Photographer credit: https://www.instagram.com/chakravorty/?igshid=MWZjMTM2ODFkZg%3D%3D Episode Show Notes: https://www.mormonstories.org/portfolio-items/niece-of-jodi-hildebrandt-speaks-out/ Chapters 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:40 Jessi Hildebrandt is Jodi Hildebrandt’s niece 00:03:57 What Jessi wrote to Mormon Stories 00:10:19 One of the reasons Jessi wanted to speak out, anyone who has experienced abuse 00:14:35 Grew up in California 00:29:00 Jessi’s dad and Jodi are siblings; Jodi’s childhood 00:34:55 Questions concerning Jodi perhaps suppressing same-sex sexuality; 00:41:00 Jessi’s struggles in High School 00:43:00 Story of staying over at Jodi’s house for their grandparents anniversary 00:53:50 With Jodi there is only Good and Evil, no in-between 00:54:35 Jodi genuinely believed that Satan was working through Jessi 00:57:15 The Mormon church was funding Jodi Hildebrandt 01:00:15 Spiritual surgery, so it has to be extreme 01:03:40 Jessi was duct taped because everything they said was a lie 01:08:35 It didn't start out as horrifically abusive 01:12:40 Jodi believed that if you were angry, depressed, etc. It was a result of SHAME and shame was a result of SIN - so mental health was a result of sin 01:15:00 Jodi would say: “I’m trying to make you so physically uncomfortable that it forces the sin out of you.” 01:18:40 Jessi slept on a loveseat, then the floor, then on the balcony outside 01:24:40 Jodi would make them run sprints every night, 01:27:25 There are moments in the abuse where you are rewarded 01:35:00 Jodi is the mastermind not Ruby, but Ruby put her in the spotlight 01:37:44 You don’t need to forgive people who have abused you 01:47:20 The Mormon church gave Jodi her power, where was God in this? 01:49:00 Jodi full believes in her own bulls*it 01:53:20 Jodi’s beliefs in Mormon doctrines and ideas, etc 01:55:35 Does the worth of a soul justify abuse? 02:00:45 Sex addiction and porn addiction is not real 02:10:30 Jessi’s outlook on how their parents dealt with this 02:21:30 They wish their parents would acknowledge that it happened 02:23:20 Jodi was put on parole because she violated HIPAA 02:31:15 They feel lucky to have created the life that they have 02:34:20 Leaving the Mormon church 02:49:00 Good things and good morals are not exclusive to Mormonism or religion 02:52:15 Religion has to be the disease AND the cure 03:00:00 Have they considered writing a book? 03:04:15 They had given up anyone listening to or believing their story ___________________ At Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology 2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis 3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions 🤝Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today One-time or recurring donations: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories?default_interval=m Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/mormonstories Paypal: https://paypal.me/mormonstories Our Platforms: 🌐Mormon Stories Blog: https://www.mormonstories.org/episodes 🎙️Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories ✳️Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sDzk7dRjODTSEqzZKZJzk?si=148b0efc1ccc4404&nd=1 🍎Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormon-stories-lds/id312094772 🖼️Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mormstories 📱TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormonstoriespodcast 🎮Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjF Contact us: 📧 MormonStories@gmail.com 📬PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 #MormonStories #Mormon #lds