Since the war with Iran began, President Trump has gone from urging Iranians to take cover to threatening to annihilate them. With the cease-fire scheduled to expire this week, Clare Toeniskoetter, a producer on “The Daily,” speaks to Iranians about how they view the war. Guest: Clare Toeniskoetter (https://www.nytimes.com/by/clare-toeniskoetter) , a senior producer on “The Daily.” Background reading:  • Read two diaries of the war (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/04/03/magazine/iranians-war-regime-us-israel.html) from Iranians on opposite sides of the political divide. • Here is the latest on the war (https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/04/21/world/iran-us-war-trump-news) . Photo: Arash Khamooshi for The New York Times For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily (http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily) . Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts (http://nytimes.com/podcasts) or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.