Welcome to Episode 35 of the Rational Reminder Podcast. Today on the show we are joined by Jonathan Chevreau who is the founder of Independence Hub. He has authored and co-authored many books and has contributed to The Globe and Mail, The Financial Mail, and Money Sense. Jonathan is here today to talk about financial independence and having that “findependence” while still being extremely engaged in things that you enjoy doing. He also shares with us why your aim shouldn’t be retirement and what he means by a victory lap. We also dive into the role that media plays in investor behaviors and exactly what Jonathan defines as a success life. Jonathan’s insights on financial independence alone are incredibly valuable, and anything on top of that is simply a bonus! So, for an incredible conversation, be sure to join us! Key Points From This Episode: 2:20 How the perception of retirement is changing. 4:13 Understanding The Victory Lap Retirement; Why financial independence and retirement aren’t the same thing; When it is time to consider the full stop retirement. 7:52 Jon’s views on the FIRE movement (Financial Independence, retire early). 12:02 The importance being on the same page as your spouse. 14:53 How paying off his mortgage early on was highly beneficial for Jon. 16:20 Investing in real estate as a source of income. 18:08 Where annuities should fit into your long term plan. 22:20 ETF’s and how they have affected the way people manage their investments. 24:09 Being aware of inflation during your victory lap phase; Hear more about the role of media in investor behavior. 29:12 Jonathan’s definition of success in his life. Books From Today’s Episode: The Victory Lap Retirement - https://amzn.to/2AHUPRa Encore - https://amzn.to/3728Sx2 Unconventional Success - https://amzn.to/2XYHkF0 Pensionize Your Nest Egg - https://amzn.to/3gTGOAI Enough: True Measures of Money, Business and Life - https://amzn.to/34FdBnV Links From Today's Episode: Rational Reminder Website - https://rationalreminder.ca/podcast/35 Read more investing insights from the Passmore-Felix Team at PWL Capital. https://www.pwlcapital.com/teams/passmore-felix/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=copy&utm_campaign=rr&utm_content=rrvideo