Our interview with Delia Cai is for the real haters. Delia—senior vanities correspondent at Vanity Fair and author of the Deez Links newsletter—broke out the Condé Nast rubber room as our inaugural guest in the new TF stu to talk taking advantage of the weak Yen in Japan, boots that look like human skin, men’s leather jackets, explaining the current purgatory of her gig, what the hell is going on with the Condé union negotiations, what we mean literally and metaphorically when we talk about rubber rooms, ridiculously pointless busy work, getting anyone to pick up the phone, how Gen Z is covered by and for Millennials, her first executive order as CEO, the dream of legacy media is still alive and she’s gunning for that EIC spot, her viral Hate Read Substack pop-up blog, pitches so hateful she had to turn them down, why menswear guys get so butthurt when called out, what the old guard can learn from timeline crushing op-eds, paying it forward to her anonymous shooters, media guys are the absolutely worst, men who travel in packs vs. lone wolfs, a plethora of dating advice and otherwise from the beautiful brain of the fairer sex, being present and much more on Delia Cai’s interview with The Only Podcast That Matters™.