Steven Rinella talks with Scott Fitzwilliams, Ryan Callaghan, Brody Henderson, and Janis Putelis. Topics discussed: Will it become illegal to launch a vessel off a public roadway for water access in North Carolina?; a proposal to haze mountain lions with hounds in California after the the mauling death of Taylen Brooks by a mountain lion; anti-deficiency; the economic activity generated by a forest; having to fire folks whose salaries you're not even paying; the redundancy in governments; what happens to public lands when there's no one left to manage it?; public lands as a great experiment in democracy; #fueledbynature #meateater ---------------- Check out the gear the MeatEater Crew uses in the field here: https://store.themeateater.com Follow us: Web: https://www.themeateater.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/meateater Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/StevenRinellaMeatEater Chapters 00:00 Intro 09:44 Legislation Impacting Access to Water and Recreation 20:02 Mountain Lion Hunting and Wildlife Management 29:51 Scott Fitzwilliams' Career and Forest Supervisor Responsibilities 40:06 Economic Impact of National Forests and Ski Resorts 42:28 Understanding Mining Permits and Revenue Sharing 46:21 Government Waste and National Forest Management 49:54 Impact of Workforce Reductions on Forest Services 55:40 Inefficiencies in Government Regulations 01:01:22 Concerns Over Dismantling Public Land Management 01:07:01 Affordable Housing and Public Land Use 01:23:57 Affordable Housing and Land Management Solutions 01:29:11 Challenges in Land Swaps and Public Land Management 01:33:00 Concerns Over Forest Service Budget and Staffing 01:38:20 Political Implications of Forest Management Decisions 01:46:09 The Future of Timber Production and Environmental Advocacy 01:55:20 Finding Efficiency in Forest Service Operations