With its stock price falling and Gen Z souring on finding love online, the dating app Bumble has been struggling. Its founder, Whitney Wolfe Herd stepped down as CEO — but after a little more than a year away, she’s back with a plan to turn Bumble’s fortunes around. For more: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/10/magazine/whitney-wolfe-herd-interview.html 00:00 - Introduction 02:00 - Time away from Bumble 05:02 - The decision to return to Bumble 08:15 - Bumble as “Feminist Tinder” 10:27 - On the “girl boss” narrative 15:50 - How the lawsuit against Tinder impacted Herd, professionally 21:20 - Tech optimism 23:15 - Bumble’s dip in user growth 27:33 - Gen Z and dating apps 30:32 - AI and dating apps 38:20 - The state of female leadership in tech 41:36 - The tech industry’s shift away from politics 43:12 - Dating apps vs. meeting in person Subscribe to NYT Audio: https://bit.ly/3Qz3GZu Download the NYT App: https://bit.ly/4gZdoip Watch more @NYTPodcasts #theinterview