Steven Rinella talks with author Craig Fehrman. Topics discussed: Craig's new book, This Vast Enterprise: A New History of Lewis & Clark; York, Ordway, Black Buffalo, Sacajawea, and other key players on the expedition; Sacajawea's sense of humor; diplomacy and discovery; medical care; views of slavery and Lewis and Clark's different views on it; the abundance of species; and more. Craig's book here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/This-Vast-Enterprise/Craig-Fehrman/9781982174248 Connect with Steve and The MeatEater Podcast Network Steve on Instagram and Twitter MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube Connect with Steve and The MeatEater Podcast Network: https://www.youtube.com/@MeatEaterPodcastNetwork Steve on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stevenrinella/?hl=en Check out the gear the MeatEater Crew uses in the field here: https://store.themeateater.com Follow us: Web: https://www.themeateater.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/meateater Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/StevenRinellaMeatEater Chapters: 0:00 Meet Craig Fuhrman: Author of This Vast Enterprise 9:50 The Route: 8,000 Miles from St. Louis to the Pacific 15:19 The Platoon Perspective: History From Inside the Canoe 21:00 York, the Vote, and the Clatsop's Long Con 30:22 Why Nobody's Made the Lewis & Clark HBO Series 36:49 Sacagawea at Fort Clatsop: Funny or Admirable? 42:00 The Real Sacagawea: Capture, Enslavement, and Sign Language 49:23 Native Slavery and the Question of Who Sacagawea Really Was 56:05 Lewis After the Expedition: The John Quincy Adams Letter 01:03:04 Governor, Drunk, and Gone: Lewis's Final Year 01:09:00 John Colter: From Mutiny to 'He's My Guy' 01:14:43 What Lewis and Clark Were Really After 01:21:06 The Louisiana Purchase Lie They Teach in School 01:28:45 How Much Can We Trust Oral History? 01:35:06 York's Petition for Freedom — And Clark's Answer 01:41:25 What's Still Missing From the Story