Nicole Perlroth is an award-winning cybersecurity journalist for The New York Times and bestselling author of This Is How They Tell Me the World Ends: The Cyberweapons Arms Race. Full show notes can be found here: https://jordanharbinger.com/542 Subscribe to the podcast: http://jordanharbinger.com/subscribe What We Discuss with Nicole Perlroth: 💻 The startlingly simple reasons why most nation-states now resort to using cyberwarfare tactics before conventional weaponry in acts of aggression — to increasingly devastating effect. 💻 How industries are so interconnected that there’s almost no way for a cyberattack to target one victim without endangering countless others on all sides of a conflict (which is why you may have Putin to blame if there’s a Cadbury chocolate egg shortage next Easter). 💻 Why leaving the security of 85 percent of its critical infrastructure up to privatization makes the United States especially vulnerable to cyberwarfare attacks. 💻 The massive amount of intellectual property that’s been lost to hackers — from the formula for Coca-Cola to information that would allow China and other rival nations to catch up with the United States in the nuclear arms race. 💻 What Nicole believes the US should do to push back against these threats and the governments that perpetrate them — and ensure that it’s not inadvertently one of them. 💻 And much more… The early days of the Cold War at least had a “duck and cover” bromide for remaining calm in the face of seemingly inevitable nuclear annihilation. But what can we do to feel safe in an era when any number of bad actors — operating on behalf of hostile nation-states, terrorist cells, or organized crime syndicates — can wreak havoc on our highly privatized and digitized infrastructure from the other side of the world via the Internet? On this episode, we talk to award-winning New York Times cybersecurity journalist Nicole Perlroth about what she discovered while doing the research for her bestselling book, This Is How They Tell Me the World Ends: The Cyberweapons Arms Race. Here, we’ll discuss why cyberwarfare tactics beat conventional weaponry when a nation-state really wants to cause the most damage while risking little of its own citizens’ lives and resources, why the United States is playing with fire by leaving the security of 85 percent of its critical infrastructure in the hands of private companies, why the globally interconnected nature of modern industrial supply chains makes a surgical strike against one enemy likely to result in catastrophic collateral damage to all sides, how prepared the US is against existing threats (and how it can do better), and much more. Listen, learn, and enjoy! Get the BEST highlights from each episode on our clips channel! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-cxPJ7QxPE8M7EYe5Vv7ag Want to watch more in-depth interviews with some of the world’s most amazing and successful people? Find full episodes here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNbAQB8BYtM&list=PLxuPu-uyanrrBgAl5-76enemxVsxFjnEQ&index=1 Welcome to The Jordan Harbinger Show, a video podcast where each week you get to join a conversation with some of the world’s highest performers and incredible personalities. I’ll ask them the tough questions to tease out their top tips so that you can reach levels of personal growth and mastery that you never imagined possible. Learn more about Jordan: http://jordanharbinger.com/about