Who is worth debating? Where do we draw the line? Will all journalism eventually devolve into debate? Jon Favreau is joined by Abby Philip, anchor of CNN NewsNight, to talk about her viral cable news show, the battle between traditional journalism and punditry, and her new book on the presidential campaigns of civil rights icon Jesse Jackson, who rewrote the rules of the Democratic Party and helped pave the way for Barack Obama’s rise. CHECK OUT THESE DEALS FROM OUR SPONSORS GRAZA: https://www.graza.co/CROOKED CODE: CROOKED QUINCE: https://www.quince.com/crooked ARTICLE: https://www.article.com/CROOKED SQUARESPACE: https://www.squarespace.com/CROOKED CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro 0:48 How is 2025 Different From Before? 6:43 What is the Future of Journalism? 13:55 Moderating Contentious TV Debates 22:17 Ad Break 25:34 Platforming Right Wing Voices in a Debate 33:30 Understanding MAGA Politics 35:45 Jesse Jackson’s Legacy 51:15 Ad Break 54:15 The Lost Art of the Politics of Persuasion Join this channel to get access to perks like ad-free episodes and exclusive videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKRoXz3hHAu2XL_k3Ef4vJQ/join Get tickets to CROOKED CON November 6-7 in Washington, D.C at crookedcon.com Subscribe to our channel! https://www.youtube.com/crookedmedia?sub_confirmation=1 Photos courtesy of AP Photo Archive Crooked believes that we need a better conversation about politics, culture, and the world around us—one that doesn’t just focus on what’s broken, but what we can do to fix it. At a time when it’s increasingly easy to feel cynical or hopeless, former Obama staffers Jon Favreau, Jon Lovett, and Tommy Vietor have created a place where people can have sane conversations that inform, entertain, and inspire action. In 2017 they started Crooked with Pod Save America—a no-bullshit conversation about politics. Since then, we continue to add shows, voices, and opportunities for activism, because it’s up to all of us to do our part to build a better world. That’s it. End of mission. Learn more about Crooked at http://www.crooked.com Follow the pod on Twitter https://twitter.com/podsaveamerica Follow Crooked on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/CrookedMedia/ Follow Crooked on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/crookedmedia/