Sign up to receive Peter's email newsletter: https://bit.ly/4c602k2 Lori Gottlieb is a psychotherapist and the bestselling author of Maybe You Should Talk to Someone. In this episode, Lori extracts important lessons from her experiences as both a therapist and a patient. The stories Lori shares has provided her the material for insights into living a more fulfilling life. In our conversation, Lori also dispels some misconceptions about therapy, explains the process of big therapeutic breakthroughs, and reveals the most important steps for enduring emotional health. We discuss: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:03:00 - Lori’s unique path to becoming a therapist 00:12:30 - Dissecting cadavers—a profound experience during med school 00:17:15 - The sunk cost fallacy—How Lori was able to walk away from med school 00:24:00 - Being aware of the gift of life, and other lessons from Lori’s terminally ill patient 00:32:45 - How underlying pain can manifest in obnoxious behavior 00:36:15 - Counseling versus therapy 00:38:30 - The story of John—why men hide their feelings, breaking down his shield, and uncovering his pain 00:46:30 - “Breaking open”—A shocking revelation about John that tests Lori’s resolve as a therapist 00:49:00 - Rewriting your story, the recovery process, and the most important step for lasting change 00:56:00 - The process of many big therapeutic breakthroughs 01:01:00 - The 2 types of suicidal thoughts, and the importance of talking about it 01:02:45 - The most common issues that bring patients to therapy with Lori 01:05:15 - Clinging to the familiar—why change is so hard 01:07:00 - A story of shame, lack of self-compassion, and self-sabotage 01:15:45 - The importance of managing mental health to reduce unnecessary suffering 01:23:15 - Dispelling the misconceptions about therapy Show notes page: https://peterattiamd.com/lorigottlieb/ About: The Peter Attia Drive is a weekly, ultra-deep-dive podcast focusing on maximizing health, longevity, critical thinking…and a few other things. With over 30 million episodes downloaded, it features topics including fasting, ketosis, Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, mental health, and much more. Peter is a physician focusing on the applied science of longevity. His practice deals extensively with nutritional interventions, exercise physiology, sleep physiology, emotional and mental health, and pharmacology to increase lifespan (delay the onset of chronic disease), while simultaneously improving healthspan (quality of life). Learn more: https://peterattiamd.com/ Subscribe to receive exclusive subscriber-only content: https://peterattiamd.com/subscribe/ Sign up to receive Peter's email newsletter: https://peterattiamd.com/newsletter/ Connect with Peter on: Facebook: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDFB Twitter: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDTW Instagram: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDIG Subscribe to The Drive: Apple Podcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveApplePodcasts Overcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveOvercast Spotify: http://bit.ly/TheDriveSpotify Google Play: http://bit.ly/TheDriveGooglePlay