Few AI products have found the kind of product-market fit we’ve seen from Claude Code. On the eve of the product’s first anniversary, Anthropic’s Boris Cherny explains why Claude Code is so powerful, all the work left to do, and why he no longer writes any code himself. After that, The Verge’s Hayden Field joins the show to talk about how we should think about giving our data (and our computers) to AI, even when it seems useful. Finally, The Verge’s Allison Johnson helps David answer a question from the Vergecast Hotline (866-VERGE11) about whether you should go buy a phone, like, right now. #Vergecast #Technology #Podcast 00:00 Intro 04:37 Claude Code Origin Story 05:32 Boris on Not Coding 07:27 Opus 4.5 Breakthrough 10:34 Who Uses Claude Code 14:05 Cowork for Everyone 20:13 Busywork Automation Wins 22:35 Trust and Verification 27:31 Agents Explained 32:52 Privacy and Prompt Attacks 35:51 Everyday Cowork Tips 40:14 Hayden on AI Privacy Fears 41:27 AI Data Risk Framework 46:52 Anonymization 49:55 Training Data Reality 52:25 Claude Gmail Terms Trap 54:54 Gemini Privacy Advantage 01:02:19 One Assistant vs Many 01:06:48 Undoing Gmail Access 01:10:44 RAM Crisis Phone Upgrades 01:16:27 When to Buy 01:21:20 Wrap Up Subscribe: http://goo.gl/G5RXGs Like The Verge on Facebook: https://goo.gl/2P1aGc Follow on Twitter: https://goo.gl/XTWX61 Follow on Instagram: https://goo.gl/7ZeLv Watch The Vergecast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/40RFRkg The Vergecast Podcast: https://bit.ly/3WQDexZ Decoder with Nilay Patel: http://apple.co/3v29nDc More about our podcasts: https://www.theverge.com/podcasts Read More: http://www.theverge.com Community guidelines: http://bit.ly/2D0hlAv Wallpapers from The Verge: https://bit.ly/2xQXYJr Shop our Verge merch store here: https://bit.ly/4kPCmEc Subscribe to The Verge: https://bit.ly/3FT6n5S Subscribe to The Vergecast on YouTube, new episodes on Tuesday and Friday: https://bit.ly/3I6nJtz If you buy something from a Verge link, Vox Media may receive a commission without exerting any influence on editorial content. For more information about our ethics policy, visit: https://bit.ly/3ZWTlLs