Check out my free newsletter at https://TKOPOD.com and join my new community at https://TKOwners.com ━ I sat down with Michael Shimeles to talk about the most approachable path into building with AI. We got into why you don’t need to be technical to start building powerful AI automations, how to sharpen your edge as a non-developer, and why “just building stuff” is the most important thing you can do right now. We covered tools like Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, Make, n8n, and Gumloop, and even talked about wrapping these workflows in simple web apps. We also explored AI-first product ideas, smart ways to escape the “tech bubble,” and how beautiful design can become your moat. You can find Michael on X at https://x.com/rasmickyy and check out what he’s working on at http://rasmic.xyz/ Here are direct links to all the tools, platforms, and APIs mentioned in the episode: 🛠️ AI Models & LLMs Claude (Anthropic / Cloud Code): https://claude.ai ChatGPT / OpenAI: https://chat.openai.com Gemini (Google): https://gemini.google.com Perplexity AI: https://www.perplexity.ai Grok (xAI / Twitter): https://x.ai ⚙️ Automation & No-Code Tools N8N (Workflow Automation): https://n8n.io Make.com (formerly Integromat): https://www.make.com Zapier: https://zapier.com Gumloop: https://gumloop.com Replit (Browser-based IDE & AI dev): https://replit.com 💳 APIs & System Integration MCP (Multimodal Communication Protocol): https://www.anthropic.com/news/model-context-protocol Linear (Project Management): https://linear.app Timestamps below. Enjoy! --- Audio podcast on all podcast platforms: https://toolkit.tkopod.com/podcast Free weekly business ideas newsletter: https://tkopod.com Private community where we build cool businesses together: https://TKOwners.com Learn more about me: https://www.chrisjkoerner.com/ Business ideas shorts channel: ⁨@thekoernerofficeideas (https://studio.youtube.com/channel/UCzjpCGEXR7BU-_SJSl59CGQ) The Koerner Office highlights: ⁨@thekoernerofficehighlights (https://studio.youtube.com/channel/UCYEzHNmI-1oIqimmOnul_fg) AI-enabled accounting software, because Quickbooks SUCKS: https://lazybooks.com/ --- 00:00 Unlocking Opportunities with Automation 03:06 The Future of AI Agents 05:53 Navigating the Learning Curve of Vibe Coding 08:47 Building Useful Automations 12:09 Embracing the Pain of Learning 15:03 Creating Unique Solutions in Your Industry 17:56 The Importance of User Experience 20:49 Choosing the Right Tools for Automation 23:43 The Role of MCP in LLMs 26:58 Finding Opportunities Outside the Tech Bubble 29:50 The Value of Industry Knowledge 33:02 Designing Beautiful Applications 35:55 The Future of Non-Technical Creators 38:50 Final Thoughts on Learning and Building --- For the Algorithm: #TKOPodcast #ChrisKoerner #MichaelShimeles #HoldCoBros #AItools #ClaudeAI #ChatGPT #GeminiAI #AutomationTools #BuildWithAI #VibeCoding #NoCode #LowCode #LLMs #AgenticWorkflows #OpenAI #Zapier #MakeCom #N8N #Gumloop #TempleBuild #CloudCode #AIautomation #MCP #UXDesign #ProductDesign #BuildInPublic #AIForBusiness #AItools2025 #SaaSIdeas #NonTechnicalFounders #StartWithAI #BuildAutomations #Claude4 #AIWrappers #AIProducts #AIstartups #VibeAutomating #QuickWinApps #AIAPIs #AIUXMatters