Dr. Jeremi Suri is a professor of Public Affairs and History at the University of Texas, Austin whose recent work explores the idea that the American civil war never ended. Suri argues that the surrender at Appomattox Courthouse at the end of the Civil War was just a superficial conclusion of outright hostilities, not a true end to the massive division that ran across America during colonial times. Our conversation with Suri centers around the question of where these divisions come from, what has entrenched them, why the same social rifts are opening not just in America, but all around the world. Most importantly, we wrestle with what can be done about a seeping wound of discontent that refuses to heal. Sign up for our Patreon and get episodes early + join our weekly Patron Chat https://bit.ly/3lcAasB AND rock some Demystify Gear to spread the word: https://demystifysci.myspreadshop.com/ Read Jeremi's Books and Fund DemystifySci: https://amzn.to/4dhjidg 00:00 Go! 00:05:22 Low points in history (other than now) 00:09:45 Bring back the CCC! 00:11:28 Civil unrest in the US 00:15:40 Racial divide at the core of the US 00:22:00 A revolutionary's lifestyle 00:26:29 2nd order messes 00:31:03 Does the president matter that much? 00:37:37 Solution set for systematic inequality 00:49:11 Order v. chaos in society 00:56:16 Post civil war wounds 01:06:25 Anxiety below racism 01:19:08 Journalism was never clean truth 01:33:19 Reality v. internet universe 01:48:53 Moving away from home v. adaptation to the new world 02:01:21 Every kid to college? 02:15:04 Economics & extremism 02:19:32 Is this actually a democracy??? 02:26:07 Tech politics #sciencepodcast #longformpodcast #AmericanHistory, #CivilWar, #Democracy, #PoliticalUnrest, #SocialChange, #HistoricalPerspective, #AmericanMobility, #CivilRights, #PoliticalPolarization, #HistoricalCycles, #SocialJustice, #AmericanIdentity, #PoliticalReform, #HistoricalContext, #DemocraticEvolution Check our short-films channel, @DemystifySci: https://www.youtube.com/c/DemystifyingScience AND our material science investigations of atomics, @MaterialAtomics https://www.youtube.com/@MaterialAtomics Join our mailing list https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. - Blog: http://DemystifySci.com/blog - RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss - Donate: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD - Swag: https://bit.ly/2PXdC2y SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671