Today on the flagship podcast of open smart home standards: Microsoft’s Pavan Davuluri, leader for Windows and Devices, joins the show to discuss the future of the AI PC and what’s next for Microsoft’s hardware The Verge’s Jen Tuohy and David Pierce discuss the latest updates in the smart home world in a segment called “Does Matter matter yet?” David answers a question from the Vergecast Hotline about AI-powered search engines. Links: Microsoft’s new Windows chief on the future of the OS, Surface, and those annoying ads: https://www.theverge.com/24162953/microsoft-pavan-davuluri-windows-surface-interview Microsoft’s big bet on building a new type of AI computer: https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/21/24161579/microsoft-copilot-plus-pc-ai-npu-push-notepad Microsoft Build 2024: everything announced: https://www.theverge.com/24161636/microsoft-build-2024-ai-copilot-windows-teams-edge The Dyson WashG1 is the company’s first dedicated mop: https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/13/24155775/dyson-washg1-mop-price-specs-release-date Amazon’s Matter Casting is shaping up so nicely, I want to use it everywhere: https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/10/24153556/fire-tv-amazon-matter-casting-hands-on Matter 1.3 arrives with new device type and features: https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/8/24151664/matter-smarthome-standard-spec-1dot3-released-device-types-features Smart lighting company Brilliant is looking for a buyer: https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/8/24150346/brilliant-smart-home-lighting-out-of-business Google launches new Home APIs and turns Google TVs into smart home hubs: https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/15/24157154/google-home-api-matter-smart-home-chromecast-google-tv Google is redesigning its search engine — and it's AI all the way down: https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/14/24155321/google-search-ai-results-page-gemini-overview Google CEO Sundar Pichai on AI-powered search and the future of the web: https://www.theverge.com/24158374/google-ceo-sundar-pichai-ai-search-gemini-future-of-the-internet-web-openai-decoder-interview 00:00 - Intro 02:37 - Interview: Microsoft’s Pavan Davuluri 04:10 - The ARM bet and Surface RT 09:59 - AI Integration in PCs 25:30 - Future of Surface and Windows 27:41 - Smart Home Catch-Up w/ Jen Tuohy 39:58 - Matter Casting TV integration 41:35 - Matter 1.3: new features 49:07 - Matter's missing pieces 52:02 - Brilliant's struggles 56:43 - Google's New Home APIs 01:05:59 - Smart Chicken Coop 01:08:21 - The future of search engines and AI integration (Vergecast Hotline) Subscribe: http://goo.gl/G5RXGs Like The Verge on Facebook: https://goo.gl/2P1aGc Follow on Twitter: https://goo.gl/XTWX61 Follow on Instagram: https://goo.gl/7ZeLvX Follow on TikTok: http://bit.ly/42VeCVU The Vergecast Podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/vergecast Decoder with Nilay Patel: https://link.chtbl.com/decoder More about our podcasts: https://www.theverge.com/podcasts Read More: http://www.theverge.com Community guidelines: http://bit.ly/2D0hlAv Wallpapers from The Verge: https://bit.ly/2xQXYJr If you buy something from a Verge link, Vox Media may receive a commission without exerting any influence on editorial content. For more information about our ethics policy, visit: https://bit.ly/3P4bJgz