Digital systems can imitate intelligence, but they cannot form the unified inner world that makes a mind awake. Andres Gomez Emilsson explains why coherence, boundaries, and lived integration are essential features of consciousness that code alone cannot replicate...yet. The conversation explores the limits of simulation, the illusion of depth in generative models, and why machine behavior is not the same as experience. What emerges is a clearer picture of where digital minds stop and where our minds begin. If AGI is really our goal, we seem to be going about it all wrong. And that's a big "if." Part 2: https://youtu.be/zJ08l61JI58 PATREON https://www.patreon.com/c/demystifysci PARADOX LOST PRE-SALE: https://buy.stripe.com/7sY7sKdoN5d29eUdYddEs0b HOMEBREW MUSIC - Check out our new album! Hard Copies (Vinyl): FREE SHIPPING https://demystifysci-shop.fourthwall.com/products/vinyl-lp-secretary-of-nature-everything-is-so-good-here Streaming: https://secretaryofnature.bandcamp.com/album/everything-is-so-good-here PARADIGM DRIFT https://demystifysci.com/paradigm-drift-show 00:00 Go! Rethinking intelligence in machines 00:05:16 Introducing the Co-sentience Initiative 00:08:24 Limits of digital consciousness 00:13:03 Why simulated systems fall short 00:17:24 Beyond local update rules 00:22:32 PageRank and boundary-based consciousness 00:29:10 Consciousness as boundary-constrained integration 00:33:06 Why AI lacks human-like expression 00:36:17 Will, personality, and authentic agency 00:43:32 Consciousness as veilance optimization 00:47:01 Harmony, surprise, and predictive filtering 00:53:45 Will, intuition, and deeper internal drives 01:00:18 Selfhood, subagents, and integrated experience 01:07:28 Simulation vs physical implementation 01:13:29 Power without consciousness #consciousness, #artificialintelligence, #agi, #machineintelligence, #philosophyofmind, #cognition, #neuroscience, #computationalmodels, #aisafety, #emergence, #complexsystems, #qualia, #intelligence, #technology #physicspodcast, #philosophypodcast MERCH: Rock some DemystifySci gear : https://demystifysci-shop.fourthwall.com/ AMAZON: Do your shopping through this link: https://amzn.to/3YyoT98 DONATE: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD SUBSTACK: https://substack.com/@UCqV4_7i9h1_V7hY48eZZSLw@demystifysci RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss MAILING LIST: https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671