Today we are joined by Wesley Gray who is the CEO of Alpha Architect, a firm in the US that specializes in concentrated factor strategies. Having completed his MBA and PhD at the University of Chicago – the Harvard of the finance world – Wes is an authoritative voice when it comes to quantitative research and factor investing. Incredibly, he took a 4-year break during his PhD, joined the marines and went to Iraq, and has also written several books. He went from value investor and stock-picker to having a strong quant focus and realized that it was possible to eliminate the human biases while still capturing the factor premiums. Our talk with Wes illuminates the nuanced nature of factor investing, behaviour versus risk-based factor premiums and active management versus passive and indexing. He discusses the process of collecting data for his PhD, the rules according to which they structure portfolios, how their boutique firm differs from larger advisor companies and who their ideal client is. Wes also shares his views on selecting the best quant model, hedge funds, value premiums and market-cap indexing. Join us for another insightful episode! Key Points From This Episode: 3:31 Wesley’s experience as a stock picker and riding the wave of small-cap value; The Value Investors Club as a data source to test stock-picking skills for his PhD. 9:38 From stock picker to a quant and realizing the need to eliminate biases. 14:26 The rules that govern how they build portfolios in his firm Alpha Architect; Comparing Alpha Architect to Dimensional Fund Advisors and AQR. 22:28 Understanding reliability in the context of relativity and defining their ideal client. 26:55 Advice for retail investors about quant shops and choosing the best quant model. 32:57 Wesley’s view on hedge funds and their strategies. 36:24 Why education rather than assets should determine the active risk that is included in a portfolio. 38:03 Thinking about persistence in the context of a behavioural component. 43:22 Why value premiums are not dead and how it relates to behavioural theory. 47:28 The global explosion of market cap indexing and guidelines for investing. Books From Today’s Episode: Quantitative Momentum: A Practitioner’s Guide to Building a Momentum-Based Stock Selection System - https://amzn.to/2XZWFoH Quantitative Value, + Web Site: A Practitioner’s Guide to Automating Intelligent Investment and Eliminating Behavioral Errors - https://amzn.to/2U6GuVh Links From Today’s Episode: Rational Reminder Website - https://rationalreminder.ca/podcast/69 Alpha Architect — https://alphaarchitect.com/ Wesley Gray on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/alphaarchitect Wes Gray on Twitter — https://twitter.com/alphaarchitect?ref_src Wharton (University of Pennsylvania) — https://mba.wharton.upenn.edu/ University of Chicago — https://www.uchicago.edu/ Drexel University — https://drexel.edu/ Value Investors Club — https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/ Joel Greenblatt — https://www.gothamfunds.com/Default.aspx Geico — https://www.geico.com/ Dimensional Fund Advisors — https://www.dimensional.com/ AQR Capital Management — https://www.aqr.com/ Vanguard — https://about.vanguard.com/ Jack Vogel on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-vogel-8b826b13 Ted Seides on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/tedseides You can find the Rational Reminder podcast on 🍏 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-rational-reminder-podcast/id1426530582?mt=2 🎤 Spotify Podcasts: https://open.spotify.com/show/6RHWTH9iW7hdnA7eAg7ukO?si=hjZNfLKuSjSeWX38GPqhVA 🕵️‍♂️ Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9yYXRpb25hbHJlbWluZGVyLmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz as well as on all major podcatchers You can follow Cameron Passmore and Ben Felix on Twitter: ➡️ https://twitter.com/CameronPassmore ➡️ https://twitter.com/benjaminwfelix Check out Ben's YouTube channel. 📺 https://www.youtube.com/benfelixcsi Catch up on the latest in wealth management and investing insights from the Passmore-Felix Team at PWL Capital. https://www.pwlcapital.com/teams/passmore-felix/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=copy&utm_campaign=rr&utm_content=rrvideo The Rational Reminder is presented as an educational resource and should not be construed as individualized investment advice, nor as a recommendation to buy or sell specific securities. The funds and portfolios discussed are examples only and may not be appropriate for your individual circumstances.