Julia Stoller loved her dad. But she never wanted to be him. He was a rule follower, he was so serious, and he was so straight. Then, when Julia was in her 20s, she got a phone call that completely changed her idea of who her father was. And as he opened up to her, sharing secrets he had been holding onto for decades, she was finally able to open up to him, too. This week on “Modern Love,” Anna talks to Julia about what happened when she had to get to know a whole new version of her dad, and what she learned about herself in the process. You can read Julia’s original story in the Modern Love column (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/19/style/modern-love-from-bi-to-beige-and-back-again.html) . We Want to Hear From You Email us at modernlovepodcast@nytimes.com (mailto:modernlove@nytimes.com) . Here’s how to submit a Modern Love essay (https://www.nytimes.com/article/how-to-submit-a-modern-love-essay.html) . Here’s how to submit a Tiny Love Story (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/19/style/modern-love-tiny-love-stories.html?pgtype=Article&action=click&module=RelatedLinks) . Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts (http://nytimes.com/podcasts) or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.