Mayor Jacob Frey of Minneapolis knows that what is playing out on the streets of his city will have profound implications for the whole country. Since December, thousands of federal agents from ICE and Customs and Border Protection have arrived in Minneapolis, as part of an immigration enforcement effort by the Department of Homeland Security. Since then, Frey has had to shepherd a city upended by protests, infuriated by the killings of Renee Good and Alex Pretti, and shaken by an aggressive federal action that has left some residents afraid to leave their homes. Lulu Garcia-Navarro spoke to Frey on Thursday afternoon, not long after Trump’s border czar, Tom Homan — who has been dispatched to Minneapolis to replace and clean up after the operation’s original commander Gregory Bovino — promised to de-escalate the situation there. Homan said in a news conference that there would be a drawdown of agents, only to have President Trump later deny that there was any plan to pull back. Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/31/magazine/jacob-frey-interview.html “The Interview” features conversations with the world’s most fascinating people. Each week, co-hosts David Marchese and Lulu Garcia-Navarro talk to compelling, influential figures in culture, politics, business, sports and beyond — illuminating who they are, why they do what they do and how they impact the rest of us. Subscribe to “The Interview”: https://www.youtube.com/@theinterviewpodcast Download the New York Times app: https://bit.ly/4gZdoip #theinterview