Subscribe to Throwing Fits on Substack. Our interview with Moses Sumney is better and badder. Moses—whose new EP Sophomore is out now and who you might recognize from his recurring role on The Idol—came through to worship with us on when he wear sneakers, pre-distressed underwear, Italian strip malls, how he gets better and how he is bad, designing his own bags, the one hole two hoops method, breaking screen time protocol to shop, writing songs in his dreams, searching for new sounds, breaking down the qualifications for pop stardom, the right and wrong levels of fame, a meticulously planned slow burned career, misconceptions by way of mystery, his favorite actors and directors and movies, memories made and lessons learned from working on The Idol, what the infamous behind-the-scenes drama meant for those working on it, not allowing his parents to watch, being in a Calvin Klein campaign and the double-edged sword of objectification, his diet that helps make his best in class abs, going on vacay with Emrata, advice for wining and dining art hoes, and much more on Moses Sumney’s interview with The Only Podcast That Matters™.