This episode is sponsored by Hungryroot, Orgain, Hiya and June's Journey. Hungryroot: Visit https://hungryroot.com/unplanned and use code UNPLANNED to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice. Orgain: Visit https://hungryroot.com/unplanned and use code UNPLANNED to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice. Hiya: Go to https://hiyahealth.com/UNPLANNED and receive 50% off your first order. Get your kids the full-body nourishment they need to grow into healthy adults. June's Journey: Download June’s Journey for free here https://bit.ly/unplannedpodcast @johnnyswim's Amanda Sudano and Abner Ramirez sit down with Matt and Abby to talk about their new album, which explores love, depression, and health struggles. Amanda reflects on her mother Donna Summer’s legacy, while Abner shares how psilocybin played a role in his healing and faith. They also open up about surviving the California wildfires, the impact of therapy on their marriage, and writing through life’s hardest moments. Johnnyswim IG: https://www.instagram.com/johnnyswim/ Amanda's IG: https://www.instagram.com/amandasudanoramirez/ Abner's IG: https://www.instagram.com/theabnerpedro/ Follow The Unplanned Podcast: https://www.instagram.com/unplanned__podcast/ https://www.tiktok.com/@unplanned_podcast Listen to the pod on Spotify/ Apple Podcasts: https://open.spotify.com/show/1ToDA4ufQuWuEgMq07zN6t https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-unplanned-podcast/id1669604504 Follow Matt & Abby: Abby's Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/abbyelizabethoward/ Matt's Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/_matt_howard_/ TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@matt_and_abby Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/mattandabb YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/@MattandAbbyHoward Chapters: 00:00 - Johnnyswim 04:14 - Oprah invited us to her house 17:16 - How my entire belief around love changed 28:54 - When you start dating the daughter of the Queen of Disco 36:52 - The moment we "made it" 44:39 - Writing about my health scare 49:37 - How I changed my perspective on therapy 54:03 - Writing through my depression 57:31 - Naming a song "Psilocybin" 1:04:47 - Macrodosing on Psilocybin 1:12:41 - My proudest moment as a wife 1:19:48 - When your mom gives you wedding night advice 1:30:59 - Getting married broke #unplannedpodcast #mattandabby