Zac Clark is the founder of Release Recovery, a recovery advocate, and the winner of The Bachelorette. We discuss his path through addiction, the willingness to change, emotional sobriety, running, and more. READ MORE👉🏼http://bit.ly/richroll1005 ✌🏼🌱 – Rich This Episode Is Brought To You By… Seed: Use code RICHROLL25 for 25% off your first month of DS-01®👉🏼https://bit.ly/seedxrrp2025 Go Brewing: Use code Rich Roll for 15% OFF👉🏼https://bit.ly/gobrewing2025 Squarespace: Use code RichRoll to save 10% off👉🏼https://bit.ly/squarespace2025 Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/rrpitunes Spotify: http://bit.ly/rrpspotify Google: http://bit.ly/rrpgooglepods Meal Planner: http://meals.richroll.com Voicing Change Book: http://richroll.com/vc Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/RichRollPodcastClips Newsletter: http://bit.ly/rollcallemail CHAPTERS 00:00:00 Intro 00:00:47 Therapy's Role in a 12-Step Program 00:05:09 The Bachelorette Experience 00:13:53 AD BREAK 1 00:16:43 A Charmed Upbringing 00:19:01 First Drink and the Power of a Lie 00:21:41 The Ritual of Addiction 00:25:55 College Baseball and Alcoholism 00:33:14 The Brain Tumor Discovery 00:36:25 The Introduction to Opioids 00:38:25 AD BREAK 2 00:41:22 The Functioning Addict Facade 00:43:53 Marriage and Escalating Addiction 00:47:14 First Stint in Rehab 00:51:15 The Descent into Heroin 00:56:32 The Gallbladder Hustle 00:59:57 Rock Bottom at the Bank 01:06:35 The Second, Serious Rehab Stay 01:09:18 Finding a New Life in New York 01:12:29 Abstinence vs. Emotional Sobriety 01:15:47 Understanding the Why of Addiction 01:31:20 Reframing Relapse 01:35:05 Who Succeeds in Recovery? 01:47:46 Finding Running in Rehab 01:52:31 Running as a Healthy Addiction 01:56:19 The Rise of Run Clubs 02:03:48 The Gift of Service in Recovery 02:08:56 Navigating Anonymity in Public Recovery 02:14:55 Finding Meaning and Purpose 02:18:34 A Message of Hope CONNECT WITH RICH ✩ Website - http://richroll.com​ ✩ Rich Roll Podcast - https://richroll.com/all-episodes/ ✩ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/richroll/ ✩ Twitter - https://twitter.com/richroll ✩ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/richrollfans ✩ Strava - https://www.strava.com/athletes/14443?oq=rich ✩ Memoir: Finding Ultra - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/finding-ultra/ ✩ Meals - http://meals.richroll.com​ ✩ Cook - The Plantpower Way - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/the-plantpower-way-signed/ ✩ Italian! - The Plantpower Way: Italia - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/the-plantpower-way-italia-signed/ ✩ Support - https://www.patreon.com/richroll Thanks To The Team: Jason Camiolo, Dan Drake, Morgan McRae, Blake Curtis, Desmond Loh * * * * * NEW TO RICH? Hi I'm Rich Roll. I'm a vegan ultra-endurance athlete, author, podcaster, public speaker & wellness evangelist. But mainly I'm a dad of four. If you want to know more, visit my website or check out these two the NY Times articles: http://bit.ly/otillonyt http://bit.ly/vegansglam I LOVE MAIL! SEND IT HERE: 2630 Conejo Spectrum St. Thousand Oaks, CA 91320 #richroll #richrollpodcast