Austin Abigt is a philosopher, writer, and one of the key members of the of the Renewal of Science movement, which seeks to chart a path for scientific rebirth. In this conversation, Abigt explains how modern science is the product of two distinct philosophical lineages - one founded by Newton and Descartes, the other by Goethe. The Newtonian paradigm, roughly summarized by "shut up and calculate" has been invaluable for the development of the modern world, but Abigt argues that its ability to keep moving us forward to a deeper and deeper understanding of nature is inherently limited. To be able to make progress, we have to turn to the alternative scientific thread, the Goethian one, that advocates for a more holistic approach to nature. Rather than demanding a single story, Abigt argues that it's time to embrace the inherent complexity of nature. PATREON: get episodes early + join our weekly Patron Chat https://bit.ly/3lcAasB MERCH: Rock some DemystifySci gear : https://demystifysci.myspreadshop.com/ AMAZON: Do your shopping through this link: https://amzn.to/3YyoT98 SUBSTACK: https://substack.com/@UCqV4_7i9h1_V7hY48eZZSLw@demystifysci References from Austin: Sheldon's Soul and Matter Essay: https://www.jstor.org/stable/2178912 00:00 Go! 00:07:25 Alternative Scientific History 00:15:28 Evolution of Educational Traditions 00:27:03 Goethean Spectrum 00:39:20 Diverging Scientific Views 00:48:34 Mystical Elements in Science 00:58:07 Alternative Scientific Approaches 01:10:45 The Shift in Scientific Thinking 01:20:08 Social Engineering and Consciousness 01:27:50 Industrialization and Scientific Management 01:35:21 Anthroposophy and Cultural Integration 01:46:03 Idealism vs. Materialism 01:54:20 The Interplay of Perception, Reality, and Will 02:05:41 Morality of Science 02:16:12 Truth and Beauty is all there is? 02:25:28 Lunar Cycles and Plant Growth Studies 02:28:38 Bridging Spirituality and Science 02:37:02 Exploring Materialism and Mind 02:46:04 Unifying Science and Philosophy #PhilosophyOfScience, #Anthroposophy, #HistoryOfIdeas, #ScienceHistory, #ScientificInquiry, #AlternativeScience, #RenaissanceScience, #GoetheanScience, , #ScientificParadigms, #ScienceAndSpirituality, #ScientificRevolution, #HolisticScience, #MysticalScience, #ScienceEducation, #ScientificIntegration, , #PhilosophicalDebates, #CulturalEvolution, #ScienceAndArt, #SpiritualKnowledge, #ModernScienceCritique #sciencepodcast, #longformpodcast Check our short-films channel, @DemystifySci: https://www.youtube.com/c/DemystifyingScience AND our material science investigations of atomics, @MaterialAtomics https://www.youtube.com/@MaterialAtomics Join our mailing list https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. - Blog: http://DemystifySci.com/blog - RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss - Donate: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD - Swag: https://bit.ly/2PXdC2y SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671