
Despite reports of progress, the Church today remains a highly discriminatory organization. In this episode the panel will identify and discuss specific, concrete examples of how the Church explicitly discriminates today. Panelists include Samantha Shelley: @ZelphOntheShelf, and Channel Achenbach https://www.tiktok.com/@bettenoir4 Chapters 00:00:00 Recap 00:09:00 Disclaimer 00:14:00 Topic Intro 00:15:30 Men are in charge 00:19:15 Men take the babies for blessings 00:21:30 Piecing out things to women a little at a time 00:25:30 Red Chairs/Wardrobe 00:27:40 No middle initials 00:32:15 No building names 00:33:00 Women can ONLY perform their created purpose (babies) with a man 00:38:30 Creations depicted in the temple are done by men. 00:40:30 Where is Heavenly Mother in the Temple? 00:43:00 Sister missionaries have no authority to baptize 00:50:00 Sexism & abuse 00:52:00 Male & female gods 01:02:30 Trials in the Church - excommunication of women vs men 01:14:00 Early garments designed against women 01:28:00 Sexism in the Temple 01:36:20 Every female organization is an “auxiliary” i.e. not necessary 01:37:15 Governance in the Church 01:42:00 Conservative hate for welfare 01:57:45 Ward Council - where women leaders are allowed 01:58:35 Women can’t use the church w/out a man & any meeting can be chaperoned 01:59:00 NO trust for women to discern ANYTHING 02:06:30 Women can’t handle money in the Church 02:07:00 Pre-1990 Temple ceremony, the woman’s “god” was her husband 01:12:00 Visibility, rights of passage, advancement 02:14:15 Second Anointing Episode Show Notes: https://www.mormonstories.org/podcast/gender-discrimination-john-larsen/ Related videos & playlists John Larsen & Carah Burrell Playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxq5opj6GqOAjWSF_Omv_eXrPxrQx1a_0 John Larson All Episodes https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxq5opj6GqOBxaNYKaV1avagC7-y09HKC Channel Achenbach’s Mormon Story: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxq5opj6GqOCQclBv9mdHAYD5UQHb9YCp @Nuancehoe @JohnLarsen1 _________________________ Mormon Expression is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: https://mormonstories.org/podcast/mormonexpression John & Carah on Other Platforms: Mormon Expression Podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0dxn6T2fEuU7Ezb5jJqk7Z Nuancehoe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nuancehoe Support Mormon Stories Podcast here: One-time or recurring donations: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Amazon Smile: Be sure to select “Mormon Stories” website: https://smile.amazon.com app: https://amz.run/5r2M Our Platforms: Mormon Stories Blog: https://www.mormonstories.org/episodes Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sDzk7dRjODTSEqzZKZJzk?si=148b0efc1ccc4404 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormon-stories-lds/id312094772 Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com Mormon Stories Podcast PO Box 171085 Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mormstories TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormonstoriespodcast Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjF #MormonStories #JohnLarsen #Nuancehoe

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