My guest is Jocko Willink, a retired Navy SEAL officer and author of multiple books on effective leadership and teamwork, self-discipline and mindset and host of the Jocko Podcast. We discuss how people can build and sculpt their identity and psychology through specific mindsets and actions and how to adapt the self to novel and challenging situations using specific daily routines. We consider how “energy” actually stems from physical action and describe practical tools and scientific mechanisms for leveraging exercise, cold exposure, nutrition, fasting, hydration, sunlight, mindset and music to make us feel more energized and what that, in turn, does for our life. Jocko explains how discipline and specific daily routines allow for productivity and creativity, and we discuss the qualities of successful leaders, including how to build confidence and real bonds when working with a team or family and friends. Jocko describes a particularly powerful tool of using perspective shifts to allow for detachment as a unique way to identify novel solutions to problems. We also discuss the power of early developmental narratives and how experiences of friendship, love, connection and loss can serve as pillars for making us better human beings in all aspects of life. Our conversation covers a wide range of topics, including mental health, physical health and performance, and provides actionable tools that anyone, regardless of age or profession, can apply to live a more effective and meaningful life. Thank you to our sponsors AG1 (Athletic Greens): https://athleticgreens.com/huberman Maui Nui: https://mauinuivenison.com/huberman Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/huberman LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/huberman InsideTracker: https://www.insidetracker.com/huberman Supplements from Momentous https://www.livemomentous.com/huberman Social & Website Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hubermanlab Twitter: https://twitter.com/hubermanlab Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hubermanlab LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-huberman Website: https://hubermanlab.com Newsletter: https://hubermanlab.com/neural-network Jocko Willink Extreme Ownership book: https://amzn.to/3VtiUPw Way of the Warrior Kid book: https://amzn.to/3VwPIHC Jocko Podcast: https://jockopodcast.com Echelon Front: https://echelonfront.com Jocko's website: https://jocko.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jockowillink Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/jockowillink Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jkowillink Books On The Psychology of Military Incompetence: https://amzn.to/46PnpcR Mastery: https://amzn.to/3RCRk3R Timestamps 00:00:00 Jocko Willink 00:03:50 Maui Nui Venison, Eight Sleep, LMNT, Momentous 00:08:42 Sense of Self, Discovery & Autonomy 00:19:11 Mindsets in the Military: Garrison vs. Combat 00:25:02 Military Divisions 00:29:34 Daily Workouts & Discipline 00:35:39 AG1 (Athletic Greens) 00:36:53 Energy & Movement, Cortisol, Nutrition 00:52:10 Exercise & Energy, Deliberate Cold Exposure 00:59:05 Win vs. Loss Mindset, Leadership, Action & Energy 01:12:07 InsideTracker 01:13:11 Confidence, Generators vs. Projectors, Family 01:24:01 Restoring Motivation: Social Connection & Play 01:32:44 Self-Identity & Context, Alcohol, Music, Dopamine 01:45:10 Motivation Sources & Recovering from Loss 01:54:05 Suicide, Navy SEALs, Social Contagion 02:09:00 Suicide, Alcohol, Positive Action 02:15:03 Meditation, Detachment 02:20:30 Adaptability & Opportunities, Navy SEALs 02:30:43 Ambition & Love, Likeability, Leadership 02:40:18 Building Teams, Detachment, Family 02:50:20 Detachment: Problems & Perspective 02:55:55 Tools: Strategies to Detach from Situation 03:08:31 Tool: Situational Awareness & Detachment 03:17:49 Social Media, Personal Flaws 03:23:01 Falling Asleep & Detachment 03:27:02 Resilience Calibration, Navy SEAL Training & Combat 03:39:16 Deliberate Discomfort & Mental Resilience 03:42:21 People & Animals, Personalities 03:51:25 Political Leadership & Military, Social Media 04:01:38 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube Feedback, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, Momentous, Neural Network Newsletter, Social Media The Huberman Lab podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user’s own risk. The content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions.