Dan Hendrycks is the Director and co-founder of the Center for AI Safety, and an advisor to Scale AI and xAI. He joins Big Technology Podcast for a discussion of AI's growing risk profile, and what to do about it. Tune in to hear Hendricks explain why virology expertise in AI models is an immediate concern and how these systems might soon enable devastating hacks. We also cover intelligence explosion scenarios, the geopolitical implications of AI development, and why an international AI arms race could lead to faster development than the world can handle. Hit play for an insider's perspective on how governments and AI labs are wrestling with unprecedented technological power that could reshape global security. 00:00 Introduction and Early Signs of AI Adversarial Behavior 03:04 Ranking AI Risks: Immediate Concerns vs. Future Threats 06:34 The Surprising Bioweapons Risk: AI's Expert-Level Virology Capabilities 10:42 How AI Evolved to Gain Practical Knowledge and Safety Responses 14:08 Future Cybersecurity Threats and Critical Infrastructure Vulnerabilities 19:26 The Paradox of AI Safety: Companies Building What They Fear 27:37 Inside X.AI: Truth-Seeking Mission or Cultural Influence? 32:46 The International AI Arms Race and Deterrence Strategy 42:05 Intelligence Explosion and Loss of Control Scenarios 51:06 White House Meetings and Dual-Use Approach to AI Regulation 56:43 Can We Trust AI? Deception and Self-Exfiltration Concerns 1:01:08 Funding AI Safety and Critiques of the Effective Altruism Movement