“I think this could be way bigger than the internet.” CoinFund’s Seth Ginns describes the opportunity ahead for crypto, predicting the market cap could grow at least 10× in the next few years. In this in-depth conversation with Chris Perkins, Seth explains how Digital Asset Treasuries (DATs) are becoming Wall Street’s bridge into crypto, unlocking staking yields, DeFi income, and permanent capital advantages ETFs can’t match. He breaks down how DATs defend against NAV discounts with buybacks, cash reserves, and M&A, and why strong management teams are critical for success. You’ll also hear why institutional flows, macro tailwinds, and a pro-crypto U.S. policy could power massive growth, how AI + crypto could spawn the next wave of DATs, and why a global M2 liquidity signal that leads Bitcoin’s price by ~100 days has him bullish. Plus, Seth shares his vision for an on-chain equity market that could transform capital formation worldwide. 💡FREE access to our 15 Rick Rule Symposium Interviews by signing up for our Accredited Investor List here: https://wealthion.com/accredited/ 💡Concerned about Markets? Get a free portfolio review with Wealthion’s endorsed financial advisors at https://bit.ly/45NIqr0 💡Hard Assets Alliance - The Best Way to Invest in Gold and Silver: https://www.hardassetsalliance.com/?aff=WTH Chapters: 00:38 - From Jennison to CoinFund: Seth’s Road to Crypto 01:57 - DATs 101: Why Digital-Asset Treasuries Matter 04:40 - How We Underwrite a DAT: Equity + Token Lens 08:49 - ETFs vs DATs: Where the Flow (and Yield) Goes 13:35 - When Premiums Flip: Managing DATs Below NAV 20:35 - From BTC & ETH to Tail Alts: How Far Can DATs Go? 23:59 - The Next Wave: AI × Crypto DATs 26:53 - DATs as the Bridge: One Last Take 28:16 - Macro Setup: Dovish Fed, Dollar, Liquidity 31:32 - Beyond the 4-Year Cycle: Where We Are in the Bull 36:19 - ⭐️ Wealthion Golden Nugget: Sizing the Upside: Crypto to 10x? 41:13 - Final Word: Why Crypto Could Outscale the Internet Connect with us online: Website: https://www.wealthion.com X: https://www.x.com/wealthion Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wealthionofficial/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wealthion/ #Wealthion #Wealth #Finance #Investing #Crypto #Bitcoin #Ethereum #Altcoins #DigitalAssets #Blockchain #Tokenization #CryptoInvesting #CryptoNews #MarketOutlook #GlobalMarkets #DeFi #SethGinns ________________________________________________________________________ IMPORTANT NOTE: The information, opinions, and insights expressed by our guests do not necessarily reflect the views of Wealthion. They are intended to provide a diverse perspective on the economy, investing, and other relevant topics to enrich your understanding of these complex fields. While we value and appreciate the insights shared by our esteemed guests, they are to be viewed as personal opinions and not as investment advice or recommendations from Wealthion. These opinions should not replace your own due diligence or the advice of a professional financial advisor. We strongly encourage all of our audience members to seek out the guidance of a financial advisor who can provide advice based on your individual circumstances and financial goals. Wealthion has a distinguished network of advisors who are available to guide you on your financial journey. However, should you choose to seek guidance elsewhere, we respect and support your decision to do so. The world of finance and investment is intricate and diverse. It's our mission at Wealthion to provide you with a variety of insights and perspectives to help you navigate it more effectively. We thank you for your understanding and your trust.