Joe Biden surprises Donald Trump with a debate challenge, and Trump accepts. Tommy Vietor and MSNBC’s Jen Psaki discuss the strategy behind Biden’s move and how likely it is that those debates will actually happen, Trump’s courthouse surrogate operation, the latest with Israel and Gaza, and whether it’s true that Biden thinks the polls are wrong. Then, Tommy and Jen relive the best White House stories from Jen’s new book, Say More: Lessons from Work, The White House, and the World. CHAPTERS 00:00 - Intro 3:02 - Trump Vs. Biden debates 13:13 - Trump's hush money trial 21:48 - Gaza 33:40 - Biden in the polls 42:36 - Ad break 43:35 - Jen Psaki's new book CHECK OUT THESE DEALS FROM OUR SPONSORS INDOCHINO: https://www.indochino.com use code crooked Want Pod Save America ad-free? Subscribe to Friends of the Pod: http://crooked.com/friends Our book Democracy or Else is out June 25th! Pre-order at https://bit.ly/491j0oc. Profits support Vote Save America and 2024 campaigns. See Pod Save America Live on the Democracy or Else Tour! Get tickets at https://bit.ly/43lz6YO Subscribe to our channel! https://www.youtube.com/crookedmedia?sub_confirmation=1 Crooked believes that we need a better conversation about politics, culture, and the world around us—one that doesn’t just focus on what’s broken, but what we can do to fix it. At a time when it’s increasingly easy to feel cynical or hopeless, former Obama staffers Jon Favreau, Jon Lovett, and Tommy Vietor have created a place where people can have sane conversations that inform, entertain, and inspire action. In 2017 they started Crooked with Pod Save America—a no-bullshit conversation about politics. Since then, we continue to add shows, voices, and opportunities for activism, because it’s up to all of us to do our part to build a better world. That’s it. End of mission. Learn more about Crooked at http://www.crooked.com Follow the pod on Twitter https://twitter.com/podsaveamerica Follow Crooked on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/CrookedMedia/ Follow Crooked on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/crookedmedia/ #podsaveamerica #trump #republicans