Freddie Sayers meets Andrew Gutmann. Listen to the podcast version here: https://shows.acast.com/lockdowntv-with-freddie-sayers/andrew-gutmann Accompanying article here: https://unherd.com/thepost/parent-why-i-pulled-my-daughter-out-of-antiracist-school/ Brearley is one of the most prestigious private schools in America. Based in the Upper East side of Manhattan, where the children of plutocrats and power brokers attend, the $54,000 a year all-girls school ranks among the likes of Spence, Chapin and Groton. It is also one of the most difficult schools to get into, but one parent made headlines by taking his daughter out. Writing an open letter, Mr Gutmann complained that the antiracist policies of Brearley were "misguided, divisive, counterproductive and cancerous" and attacked it for "insisting on the indoctrination of its students, and their families, to a single mindset, most reminiscent of the Chinese Cultural Revolution". // Timecodes // 00:34 Introduction 02:40 What’s going on at Brearley? 03:19 Book banning 06:00 Teaching critical race theory in schools 07:41 Losing the Enlightenment 11:10 Reaction to the letter 12:24 Redefining words and language 13:35 How do kids feel? 14:59 Where are the parents? 17:21 What are the teachers doing? 18:49 The pushback 21:00 The importance of wealth 27:53 Starting new schools 31:05 A new education