Explaining the unfulfilling nature of pleasure, J. Krishnamurti describes joy as something that happens independently without possession. To start at the beginning of this 18-part dialogue on consciousness, spirituality and navigating life with J. Krishnamurti and Dr. Allan W. Anderson: https://youtu.be/rcn0gXWv9UU “Pleasure has no relationship to ecstasy, to delight, to enjoyment, or to joy and happiness because pleasure is the movement of thought in an indirection. The others have no direction. Enjoyment- you enjoy. Joy is something you cannot invite. Happiness you cannot invite. It happens.” – J. Krishnamurti This time on Freedom from the Known, J. Krishnamurti and Dr. Allan W. Anderson discuss: - The relationship between pleasure and enjoyment - What keeps pleasure going, or, why we continuously pursue pleasure - The pleasure of possession (of people, things, and ideas) - Registering beauty with complete attention and then letting it go - The possibility of delight without thought - Controlling our senses, body, thoughts, and desires - The problem of boredom and lack of fulfillment - Discipline within the realms of pleasure and joy - The freedom to observe our fear of pleasure - Considering what it means to attend to something This talk was originally recorded in 1974 at San Diego State University and curated by the Krishnamurti Foundation of America “Just be wholly there. When you see the sunset, see it completely. When you see a beautiful line of a car, see it and don’t let this thought begin. At that moment be supremely attentive, completely with your mind, your body, your nose, your eyes, your ears, everything and thought doesn’t come through at all.“ – J. Krishnamurti ================ J. Krishnamurti on the Difference Between Pleasure and Joy – Freedom from the Known Podcast Ep. 8 - https://youtu.be/hhfjiKJ3q-I J. Krishnamurti – Freedom from the Known Podcast – Ep. 8 – The Difference Between Pleasure and Joy - https://beherenownetwork.com/(https://beherenownetwork.com/j-krishnamurti-freedom-from-the-known-podcast-ep-8-the-difference-between-pleasure-and-joy/ ================ Make sure not to miss a single video podcast from Be Here Now Network! Click here to Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc1lvEoC5PZWm-MzgUfJQfg Follow Be Here Now Network: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeHereNowNetwork Twitter: https://twitter.com/beherenownet Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beherenownetwork ================ Be Here Now Network Podcasts, Courses, and Articles to help you live a Life in Balance. Heart-Centered wisdom from Ram Dass, Jack Kornfield, Sharon Salzberg, Krishna Das + many more! Get a Free Guided Meditation from Sharon Salzberg when you first sign up at: https://beherenownetwork.com/