John Dehlin is joined by Natasha Helfer and Janae Thompson to discuss and react to Kevin Franke's second police interview in the controversial child ab*se case surrounding his former wife, Ruby Franke, and their LDS therapist, Jodi Hildebrandt. Show Notes: https://www.mormonstories.org/portfolio-items/response-to-kevin-franke/ http://Learnreligiontherapy.com https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1zZE_kJ8rQHgLTVfobLi_g Chapters 00:00:00 Background of the case 00:05:40 Janae’s background 00:15:00 “Pornography addiction” 00:23:48 Harmful teachings around sexuality 00:41:07 Grounds for Church Discipline 00:47:57 Clip 1 - The "Pen Papers" - Jodi's revelations 01:09:25 Child abuse by imposing their own beliefs on their children 01:19:04 Clip 2 - Testimonials of how great Jodi was 01:34:34 How the Group Meets worked 01:58:01 Clip 3 - Ruby's public fallout over treatment of Chad 02:09:50 Clip 4 - Jodi claims she was kidnapped 02:13:25 Clip 5 - Poltergeists & Visions 02:30:00 Questioning Jodi’s queerness 02:34:59 Clip 6 - Kevin and Ruby separating in-home over "visions" 02:48:40 Clip 7 - Losing their YouTube channel 02:50:41 Clip 11 - Jodi punishes Kevin for not complying 03:15:22 Clip 14 - Final questions in the interview 03:18:20 Wishing the best for Kevin Franke 03:18:35 How Janae left Women’s Group with Jodi Hildebrandt 03:25:33 The pain of getting excommunicated for Natasha Helfer Want to create live streams like this? Check out StreamYard: https://streamyard.com/pal/d/4530951114981376 ___________________ At Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology 2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis 3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions 🤝Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today One-time or recurring donations: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories?default_interval=m Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/mormonstories Paypal: https://paypal.me/mormonstories Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx6OgmoqJbOVRq-Lv1P7SzA/join Our Platforms: 🌐Mormon Stories Blog: https://www.mormonstories.org/episodes 🎙️Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories ✳️Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sDzk7dRjODTSEqzZKZJzk?si=148b0efc1ccc4404&nd=1 🍎Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormon-stories-lds/id312094772 🖼️Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mormstories 📱TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormonstoriespodcast 🎮Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjF Contact us: 📧 MormonStories@gmail.com 📬PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 #MormonStories #Mormon #lds