Steven Rinella talks with Montana Congressman Ryan Zinke. Topics discussed: Being red, white, and blue; from the military to politics; the fight for public lands; migration corridors; the Roadless Rule; delisting grizzlies; and more. Steve on Instagram and Twitter MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube Check out the gear the MeatEater Crew uses in the field here: https://store.themeateater.com Follow us: Web: https://www.themeateater.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/meateater Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/StevenRinellaMeatEater Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction and Christmas Tour Dates 06:14 - The Process of Adding and Subtracting Public Lands 12:17 - Zinke's Background: From Whitefish to Navy SEALs to Congress 18:00 - The Hotel Analogy: Management vs. Selling Public Lands 24:13 - Hawaii Volcano and the Wilderness Act Reality 30:03 - Wildlife Corridors and Department Reorganization 40:39 - Wild and Scenic Rivers and the Antiquities Act 47:12 - Bears Ears Monument: The Full Story 54:36 - Grizzly Bear Delisting and ESA Reform 01:04:14 - Taking the Heat Down: American Unity and Leadership 01:15:58 - Working Across the Aisle on Conservation