Both David and Nilay bought new computers this week, as the MacBook Neo turned out to be a surprisingly great cheap Apple laptop. The hosts discuss their experiences with the machines, from the processor to the keyboard to the mess that is MacOS Tahoe. After that, they talk about the future of Xbox, Project Helix, and what it might mean for every gaming PC to become an Xbox... and for the Xbox to become a gaming PC. Finally, in the lightning round, it’s time for Brendan Carr is a Dummy, the latest on Paramount and Warner Bros, Grammarly’s sloppelgangers, and more. 0:00 Welcome - The Neo Excitement 01:22 Apple Store ethics story 02:54 Nerd update Kaleidescape 05:37 Torrents vs Blu-ray quality 07:49 Neo hype and Apple vibe 11:34 Does Neo kill iPad 17:42 Why Neo beats cheap PCs 21:30 PC makers caught off guard 29:01 Surface Go and laptop size 31:40 Using Neo and Tahoe rant 36:07 Tahoe UI Rant 36:36 More MacBook Neo Hype 37:30 Eight Gig RAM Debate 38:46 Neo Keyboard Backlight 39:54 iPhone 17E Value Talk 41:31 Studio Display XDR Temptation 45:44 Apple Ultra Luxury Shift 48:55 iPhone Fold Rumors 54:00 GDC And Project Helix 55:24 Xbox Strategy Confusion 01:02:25 Windows And Xbox Mode 01:07:59 COVID Tech Hangover 01:12:13 What Games Now 01:14:46 Lightning Round Returns 01:17:29 Brendan Carr vs Satellites 01:25:29 Paramount Warner Merger Talk 01:33:39 Grammarly Expert Review Backlash 01:38:00 S26 Ultra AI Automation 01:42:16 AI Works But Brittle 01:46:13 Wrap Up and Plugs Version History now has its own channel! Make sure to subscribe here for new episodes: https://bit.ly/4rRS30p Subscribe: http://goo.gl/G5RXGs Like The Verge on Facebook: https://goo.gl/2P1aGc Follow on Twitter: https://goo.gl/XTWX61 Follow on Instagram: https://goo.gl/7ZeLv Watch The Vergecast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/40RFRkg The Vergecast Podcast: https://bit.ly/3WQDexZ Decoder with Nilay Patel: http://apple.co/3v29nDc More about our podcasts: https://www.theverge.com/podcasts Read More: http://www.theverge.com Community guidelines: http://bit.ly/2D0hlAv Wallpapers from The Verge: https://bit.ly/2xQXYJr Shop our Verge merch store here: https://bit.ly/4kPCmEc Subscribe to The Verge: https://bit.ly/3FT6n5S Subscribe to The Vergecast on YouTube, new episodes on Tuesday and Friday: https://bit.ly/3I6nJtz If you buy something from a Verge link, Vox Media may receive a commission without exerting any influence on editorial content. For more information about our ethics policy, visit: https://bit.ly/3ZWTlLs