Jill and Julie Durrant share their Mormon upbringing and the challenges they faced within the faith. They discuss the expectations placed on Mormon children and the milestones they must achieve to be considered successful in the community. Julie's scrupulosity and the patriarchal blessing she received add to her struggles. Jill talks about the superiority you can feel as a Mormon and the cognitive dissonance she experienced when her sister, Alli, came out as a lesbian. Jill went on a mission to find answers about her siblings, and Julie's faith crisis begins in earnest after talking with her son, Tom. They discuss the complications of navigating family dynamics and the difficulty of leaving the church. Ultimately, the Durrant family's story is one of resilience, growth, and learning to navigate the complexities of life within and outside of Mormonism. Chapters 00:00:00 Introduction 00:04:00 Julie’s early scrupulosity, triggered by a patriarchal blessing. 00:13:00 Choosing cosmetology over college 00:16:00 Meeting Ed & other Mormon milestones 00:27:30 Daughter Jill’s experiences growing up in Mormon family 00:30:30 LDS Expectations & Superiority 00:35:30 Daughter Alli comes out as lesbian (10 years ago) 00:51:45 Super faithful son, Tom shocks family when he leaves the Church shortly after a successful mission 01:02:00 2015 as a watershed year for Mormonism 01:08:00 Jill becomes more motivated to be faithful, Jamie goes on a mission to Dallas 01:13:00 Jamie experiences tragedy and trauma on her mission. 01:23:15 Jamie’s exclusionary Temple marriage 01:29:00 Julie’s increasing worries about her children 01:34:15 Jill serves an LDS mission during COVID, Home MTC, starting mission before the Temple 01:50:00 Jill’s mission experiences, good & bad 02:14:30 Julie’s faith crisis begins in earnest, finds Latter-Gay Stories Podcast 02:34:00 Julie wonders why Alli & Tom didn’t tell her about issues but understand now why they couldn’t 02:52:00 Julie and Ed keep up appearances at Church while Jill serves 03:09:15 Jill comes home, realizes something had changed 03:14:00 Julie schedules appointment w/Stake Pres to protest assignment to study the Family Proclamation 03:18:00 Jill doubles down on religiosity, moves out of her parents home 03:35:30 Brad Wilcox talk in 2022 severely damages Jill’s testimony 03:51:30 Jill talks to her family about her faith crisis, they apologize, acceptance 03:56:00 Coming out on Facebook together w/loving reception. 04:01:00 Julie & Jill both express more happiness 04:04:50 Telling other family. Reconciliation 04:09:00 Tolerating vs. Accepting vs. Celebrating someone (at PRIDE) 04:12:00 Replacing the Proclamation on Family ABOUT US: Mormon Stories Podcast is the longest-running and most successful podcast in Mormonism - hosted by Dr. John Dehlin. At Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We also occasionally interview scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1) Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology, 2) Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis, and 3) Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions. Mormon Stories Podcast is a product of the Open Stories Foundation - a 501c3 non-profit dedicated to supporting Mormons in religious transition. Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donations: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories?default_interval=m Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Our Platforms: Mormon Stories Blog: https://www.mormonstories.org/episodes Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sDzk7dRjODTSEqzZKZJzk?si=148b0efc1ccc4404 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormon-stories-lds/id312094772 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mormstories TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormonstoriespodcast Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjF Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 #MormonStories